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re: I’m being threatened to get the vaccine by my job

Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:15 pm to
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
7540 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:15 pm to
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However, their action unvaccinated affects your bottom line.

Doubt that? Look at the NFL Rule involving a population of athletes well under the danger zones. Infected and unable to play in a high percentage impacts everyone’s pay and involves forfeits. That also impacts TV revenue as well.

That is a private company.




And their action as smokers affects your bottom line, but you still can't fire them for that or exclude them from coverage.

And their action as overweight affects your bottom line, but you still can't regulate what they eat or fire them for being fat.

And their action as heavy drinkers affects your bottom line, but you still can't force them not to drink or fire them for being heavy drinkers.

And their actions as Motorcyclists puts them at higher risk for traffic accidents, but you still can't require they don't ride a motorcycle.

And their actions as skydivers means they have a higher risk of death during this hobby, but you still can't fire them for that.

Should I continue?

You are the definition of a FASCIST. And I'm not using that term in a misguided fashion like some Antifa idiot in a black hoodie.

You think because a company believes that something you choose to do "affects their bottom line" that you, or they, have the right to enforce a mandate because it costs you profit? That is your justification? You r profit overrides the freedoms we have in this country that are granted by God and upheld by the State?

frick you and the horse you rode in on.

Move to another country.

Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6820 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:22 pm to
In case anyone was wondering if they can fire you for refusing the shot.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nj-hospitals-rwjbarnabas-health-unvaccinated-workers-fired/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=125063886

quote:

A New Jersey hospital system has fired half a dozen senior employees for refusing to get vaccinated against COVID-19. The edict by RWJBarnabas Health — the Garden State's largest private employer — comes as the country contends with another wave of cases as the Delta variant spreads among unvaccinated Americans.

RWJBarnabas on Thursday confirmed it had parted company with six workers, citing "an ethical and professional responsibility to protect our patients and ensure a safe, COVID-19-free environment."

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quote:

"It is legal for health care institutions to mandate vaccines, as we have done with the flu vaccine since 2009," Houston Methodist said in a statement that's also bolstered by the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission's stance that employers are allowed to require COVID-19 vaccines.
bolding added by me.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 8:25 pm
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56331 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:25 pm to
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It's a bold strategy, but bold moves often pay off.

I wonder how long until someone uses that as the basis for a lawsuit? If a couple of guys on TD can think of it, you have to believe there's a smart lawyer out there looking for a client.


If a company didn’t want to employ blacks, implementing this policy reduces its black employment by, on average, 70%.
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
7540 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:25 pm to
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In case anyone was wondering if they can fire you for refusing the shot.


Chromedome35,

I think this has been pretty well established.

Not sure if you're just providing additional information, or celebrating.

Regardless, this fact has been beaten to death in this thread.

Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6820 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:29 pm to
I'm certainly not celebrating.

This just broke in the news today, and as I'm sure your well aware, not everybody reads the entirety of every thread. My main goal is to help my fellow SEC fans by providing factual advice so they don't get caught up believing companies can't do this. There have been, and continue to be, ample examples of that throughout this thread.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47452 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:32 pm to
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Please post your record. Anyone can type "yes".



J & J
Chalmette, LA
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5/22/21
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 8:35 pm
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
24743 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:42 pm to
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It’s becoming very complicated for managers. We currently have 8 people out with Covid, all 8 were not vaccinated. Two of them are in bad shape and getting antibody therapy at OLOL. I’m not sure what the path forward is, but it’s obvious that unvaccinated people are getting sick at a rapid pace right now.

liar
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
7540 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:46 pm to
quote:

I'm certainly not celebrating.

This just broke in the news today, and as I'm sure your well aware, not everybody reads the entirety of every thread. My main goal is to help my fellow SEC fans by providing factual advice so they don't get caught up believing companies can't do this. There have been, and continue to be, ample examples of that throughout this thread.




Quite frankly, "they" can fire you for any reason OR NO REASON AT ALL in the state of LA.

It's an at-will state.

The fact that it is legal, disgusting, and repugnant corporate behavior to fire someone for not taking a questionable vaccine is also without question.


Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
12852 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:16 pm to
Seems like it makes your boss pay you money while you work as a consultant on a side hustle…but that’s just the obvious answer.
Posted by Bomont
Member since May 2021
975 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 3:28 pm to
proof? show me the clause.
Posted by LosTigres251
Plano
Member since Mar 2018
1591 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 4:02 pm to
Get an attorney now. The Nuremberg Code (1947)

It will be cheaper for them to keep you.

And look for another job with a company that still believes you have the right to make your own decisions about stuff like this.
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 4:03 pm
Posted by BabylonNTing
[Redacted]
Member since Jul 2021
140 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 2:07 am to
I was also wondering how this will work in a Federal Work Study where pokes are required by a college/university.

Amazingly, I see strong push back from students saying to shove it, but for sake of argument curious how this would play out in court. Who is the actual “employer” in this case? Maybe this might make the docket one day.
Posted by BabylonNTing
[Redacted]
Member since Jul 2021
140 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 2:12 am to
Being a remote sales position, was this on the phone or remote in sense you never come to the office, but instead meet prospective clients out in the field?

I apologize you lost your shot at position, but maybe it was best in the long run. Especially for your health.
Posted by BabylonNTing
[Redacted]
Member since Jul 2021
140 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 2:12 am to
Being a remote sales position, was this on the phone or remote in sense you never come to the office, but instead meet prospective clients out in the field?

I apologize you lost your shot at position, but maybe it was best in the long run. Especially for your health.
Posted by baobabtiger
Member since May 2009
4719 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 3:51 am to
Document his requests and ask him to put it in writing.

EOC and Hippa laws protect you and you do t have to share anything with him.
Posted by Stitches
Member since Oct 2019
862 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 7:32 am to
According to the email my employer sent this morning, "The EEOC and numerous courts have confirmed that employers are permitted to request vaccination status from employees." Also said unvaccinated employees will not be discriminated against, but we have to be identified by wearing a different colored badge holder than vaccinated staff, which they claim isn't discrimination.
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7039 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 8:13 am to
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Also said unvaccinated employees will not be discriminated against, but we have to be identified by wearing a different colored badge holder than vaccinated staff, which they claim isn't discrimination.


Separate but equal, ammiright?
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