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re: Who do we call to ensure we don’t hire a pedophile coddler?

Posted on 6/10/21 at 10:55 am to
Posted by SOL2
Dallas burbs
Member since Jan 2020
4851 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 10:55 am to
Finebaum
Posted by baseballcoach23
Member since Jun 2017
197 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 10:56 am to
Your choice
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279519 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 11:13 am to
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None, and there never could be. How do you prove you didnt molest someone. Seriously?


Ok and that’s fine. But not sure I’d spend hours each of the last two days defending it like you have when there isn’t evidence to disprove the claim.

He doesn’t need to be condemned but it’s probably best to not even engage to begin with.
Posted by jkylejohnson
Alexandria
Member since Dec 2016
14034 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 11:15 am to
If vitello or mcdonnell had a player on their team with the same issues from when they were 15 the whole damn board would give them a pass. This board has lost it’s damn mind lately.
This post was edited on 6/10/21 at 11:16 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96756 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 11:16 am to
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there isn’t evidence to disprove the claim.
The only evidence I guess is that Heimlich did pass four separate lie detector tests


So there you go, there is the evidence he is innocent. Also the mother changing the story from multiple incidents, to one, to multiple, to back to one

Yes she changed the story four times. Also, this is graphic, but there was no physcial signs of sexual trauma, the little girl was still intact there


So, I mean, what little evidence there is seems to point towards innocent no?
This post was edited on 6/10/21 at 11:18 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263330 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 11:16 am to
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Isn't that funny a judge will let a 6-7 yr old girl live and have contact with the family of the guy that molested her rather than her own mother....weird.


Yep, I'm fairly well convinced he didn't "Molest" the little girl.

Sounds like an overly zealous parent out of control.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
13129 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 11:17 am to
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Heimlich has denied every allegation since day 1.

bullshite.

He pled guilty to molesting a child. Heimlich acknowledged guilt in his own handwriting. He stated, “I admit that I had sexual contact” [with the girl].

The pedophile pled guilty to the sexual abuse after working out a plea deal with his private attorney, in open court, before a judge, denying that he had been coerced or promised anything in exchange for his plea.

At the age of 21, Heimlich wrote, ““I have taken responsibility for my conduct when I was a teenager… I understand that many people now see me differently, but I hope that I can eventually be judged for the person I am today.”

Strangely a year later, after being undrafted and ignored, he chose a different strategy. He changed his story and claimed that he pled guilty to “quickly dispense with the case and the sake of family relations.”

He totally owned his child molestation throughout the process until he was ignored by MLB.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263330 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 11:17 am to
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This board has lost it’s damn mind lately.


Most of the anti casey people are just repeating shite they heard on retarded sports talk radio. There is no thought put in.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24712 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 11:17 am to
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If we hire that POS I will not watch a single fricking game. Even considering hiring him is shameful.



What about a person that had a GF beater? Or 80 y/o security guard sexual harasser? I mean Orgeron should be fired if that is your criteria a-hole.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96756 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 11:19 am to
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GF beater
quote:

Orgeron
In Orgerons own handwriting, he has also admitted in a court of law to beating the shite out of women

So, how do we feel about that class?
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84535 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 11:20 am to
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In Orgerons own handwriting, he has also admitted in a court of law to beating the shite out of women

So, how do we feel about that class?


I wouldn't have hired him
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96756 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 11:20 am to
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I wouldn't have hired him
touche'
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85311 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 11:21 am to
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The pedophile pled guilty to the sexual abuse after working out a plea deal with his private attorney, in open court, before a judge, denying that he had been coerced or promised anything in exchange for his plea.
He did this after he went to the original plea hearing thinking he was going there to plea not-guilty as part of the plea deal. They had to move the date because the lawyer confused the family about exactly what he was admitting to. They found out after that original hearing that he had to make that statement to get the deal.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
13129 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 11:37 am to
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This case was based on nothing besides him saying he didnt do it, and the girls mother saying he did. Remember the girl herself said she didnt recall it

No. The investigators were relying on statements from the girl.

The young victim had reported Heimlich’s abuse to her mother, and the father later contacted authorities, according to a probable cause document filed by prosecutors.

The girl told investigators that inside Heimlich’s bedroom, he pulled down her underwear and “touched her on both the inside and outside of the spot she uses to go to the bathroom,” according to court records.

“She said that she told him to stop, but he wouldn’t,” the documents state, and that “it hurt” when he touched her.

Prosecutors initially charged Heimlich with two counts of molestation for incidents between September 2009 and September 2010, and between September 2011 to December 2011. In Washington, child molestation in the first degree is a Class A felony.

“She said that the first time the respondent touched her she was four years old and that she was six years old the last time he did this,” according to court records.

Investigators were absolutely not relying solely on statements from the mother.

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Remember the girl herself said she didnt recall it

I’ll bet you can’t provide a link to support this.
Posted by JakeFromStateFarm
*wears khakis
Member since Jun 2012
11950 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 11:40 am to
Start banging kids. If you can’t beat em, join em.
Posted by covtgr
Covington
Member since Aug 2004
1046 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 11:40 am to
Lie detector was not in reference to the alleged incident. It was about if any other incidents had happened with other young girls. I think it’s funny that posters complaining about blaming the child molester without all the information are defaming the mother of the abused child with even less information.

“Three months after the girl's first mention of illicit contact, in the fall of 2009, her mother and father, one of Luke's brothers, finalized their divorce after seven years of marriage. The mother insists that a custody dispute had no bearing on the accusations, saying that she never raised concerns about Luke and her daughter in custody proceedings. Luke's brother has maintained majority custody ever since. He was the one who, after questioning his daughter in 2011, initiated what would become legal action against Luke by taking her to a Child Advocacy Center, where he shared her accounts and allowed a forensic interview. He and Luke have barely spoken since. Asked if such silence indicates that his brother doesn't believe him, Luke said, "I don't know."
This post was edited on 6/10/21 at 11:43 am
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
31242 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 12:03 pm to
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her fricking cousin wanted to get his dick wet.




Absolutely didn't happen....and not what he pled to.




Right, he was fingering a 4 year old. I guess that's better? But it sure is pretty sick and this coach let him stay on the team after he pled guilty.

Is anyone OK with that? I am not.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24712 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 12:39 pm to
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He did this after he went to the original plea hearing thinking he was going there to plea not-guilty as part of the plea deal. They had to move the date because the lawyer confused the family about exactly what he was admitting to. They found out after that original hearing that he had to make that statement to get the deal.

He didn’t HAVE to hit women. Otherwise, he wouldn’t have had to plea a damn thing. He was in the situation because of his actions. He also was a raging alcoholic.
How about his no background checking arse self hiring a convicted felon as his right hand man?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48602 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 12:55 pm to
The rant has become a cesspool and many of them don’t bat an eye at rape or other violent crimes so why would they care about a child molester?
Posted by OhioTiger
Ohio
Member since Oct 2005
399 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 1:49 pm to
Vet is simply an idiot. I think people on both sides of the argument would admit to that. There is so much false information being thrown around on here in regards to what actually happened. For those who think he’s guilty bc he had to admit to it as part of the plea deal, you know nothing about how our legal system works.

Someone else quoted an article written by Decaro (former female lawyer, now sports writer). I would suggest going to the link posted below to see the counter argument against her.

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I think the kid is innocent. I don’t have much doubt about it really. However, I still completely understand the PR issues that hiring Casey would bring about, so not sure it’s the best decision from that perspective. Personally, I’d say screw the mob mentality and hire the guy if he was the best coach for the job. However, his lack of ties to the south cause concern for me as well.
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