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lsupride87
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re: Who do we call to ensure we don’t hire a pedophile coddler?
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why would parents tell their child to own up to a crime that they knew without any doubt he didn't commit? It's more likely the parents thought he was guilty to get him to plea
You don’t have a large thought capacity

This isn’t a movie. People take pleas to end things. People don’t really care about others thinking they are innocent or not when they are facing jail time

Let’s turn it on some of these internet badasses

You are married with kids. You are accused of rape and you are 100% innocent. But your lawyer says he thinks you will lose the case because it’s just a he said/she said.

Your wife believes you and yells you to take the plea so you don’t miss 5 years of your life with your kids. Your family and loved ones already beleive you

99% of those times people take the plea, because they don’t give a frick what internet people will think about it, they get to go home to their family


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re: Who do we call to ensure we don’t hire a pedophile coddler?
Alert the waiting list. There's now room for one really caring passionate fan to replace one self righteous pos.


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RogerTheShrubber
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re: Who do we call to ensure we don’t hire a pedophile coddler?
This reminds me of the stupid Tennessee fan angst over hiring Schiano.


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Honkus
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re: Who do we call to ensure we don’t hire a pedophile coddler?
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But your lawyer says he thinks you will lose the case because it’s just a he said/she said.



If my lawyer could get me off based on 0 physical evidence and strictly he said/she said I'd hire a new lawyer. I guess that makes me an "internet badass". When do I get my trophy??


MBclass83
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re: Who do we call to ensure we don’t hire a pedophile coddler?
I think Joe already has a job.


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RogerTheShrubber
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re: Who do we call to ensure we don’t hire a pedophile coddler?
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I guess that makes me an "internet badass"


Are you a kid? He was.


tigervet89
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re: Who do we call to ensure we don’t hire a pedophile coddler?
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Are you a kid? He was


Don’t try to tell me you didn’t know not to diddle your 4/6 year old cousin when you were 16.


Not Cooper
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why would parents tell their child to own up to a crime that they knew without any doubt he didn't commit? It's more likely the parents thought he was guilty to get him to plea

If you read the story, they said they didn't want to put their granddaughter through cross examination on advice of their attorney. They have said they should have sought out a different attorney, as they have gotten better legal advice since then. Heimlich has denied every allegation since day 1.

None of this has anything to do with Pat Casey. Since all of this was sealed, Casey had absolutely no knowledge of it when he recruited the kid. He didn't play for Casey after the news came out, and only returned to the team the next season, after even the university president showed support of Heimlich returning. I'm sure Casey and OSU did a ton of due diligence on this.

All that said, I do not want Pat Casey to coach LSU


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re: Who do we call to ensure we don’t hire a pedophile coddler?
We’re you there when this happened. You sure sound like you were…….


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re: Who do we call to ensure we don’t hire a pedophile coddler?
What’s the key piece of evidence that you think makes him innocent?


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lsupride87
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re: Who do we call to ensure we don’t hire a pedophile coddler?
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What’s the key piece of evidence that you think makes him innocent?
None, and there never could be. How do you prove you didnt molest someone. Seriously?

Thats the entire point, you put your entire faith to the judge.

This case was based on nothing besides him saying he didnt do it, and the girls mother saying he did. Remember the girl herself said she didnt recall it



Honkus
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He didn't play for Casey after the news came out


Well acktually..

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returned to the team the next season



And even the MLB won't touch him. A lefty who sits low-90s touching up to 96 with 3 legit pitches? The national pitcher of the year? Yea id trust MLBs due diligence over some leftist school president/baseball coach
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lsupride87
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nd even the MLB won't touch him. A lefty who sits low-90s touching up to 96 with 3 legit pitches? The national pitcher of the year? Yea id trust MLBs due diligence over some leftist school president/baseball coach

This is the most illogical argument

The MLB doesnt give a shite if he is innocent or guilty. They only care about fan reaction, they would happily play a guilty person if they could get a way with it, and they would happily shun an innocent person if they thought it was better for them
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tigervet89
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re: Who do we call to ensure we don’t hire a pedophile coddler?
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None, and there never could be. How do you prove you didnt molest someone. Seriously?


Well one start would be not pleading guilty.


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Honkus
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re: Who do we call to ensure we don’t hire a pedophile coddler?
Well sorry.. thems the breaks when you plead guilty to diddling a kid. And if you don't want to be associated with such a toxic situation you sever ties immediately.. no matter how good he throws ball


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If convicted the 15 year old might face 20 years in prison.



Well, this never happened because he was charged as a juvenile and would have served a few months in a detention center.

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Or you can take a plea deal to plead guilty to a laser charge


This didn’t happen either. He pled guilty to the charges brought against him.

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records of the case would be sealed forever (which was supposed to happen).


This would have happened regardless—again he was charged in juvenile court. Whether by plea or conviction, the records are sealed and can only be opened by court order.



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OchoDedos
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re: Who do we call to ensure we don’t hire a pedophile coddler?
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It is very much in doubt that the kid did anything at all.


Heimlich wrote a confession stating that he molested the girl twice, at age 4 then 6. Confessed. Was not coerced. Confessed. Casey took him back into the OSU program, knowing what he had done, prior to the championship season. MLB will not touch Heimlich. He's bad news, and Casey brought back a confessed pedo to lead his team to a championship. The lack of moral clarity exhibited by some on this board to win at all costs escapes me.


lsupride87
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re: Who do we call to ensure we don’t hire a pedophile coddler?
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thems the breaks when you plead guilty to diddling a kid
Actually the state broke their deal with the plea

Regardless of how you feel, the state and law fricked up

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And if you don't want to be associated with such a toxic situation you sever ties immediately.
frick that, a weak Brees like man does that

Lets look at the facts here from the standpoint of only Casey:

Casey finds out a kid he knew for multiple years as a good kid has this past we are talking about.

The player tells him he absolutely didnt do it and its part of a plea his parents told him to take. His parents back this up that they told him to take the plea, and they also give the entire backstory of the mother changing her story MULTIPLE times

The psychiatrist he was foreced to talk with for years writes in a report that Heimlich maintained his innocence to her the entire time, and in her professional opinion she sees zero predator risk in Heimlich

So hearing all that, and from Caseys point of view there is a damn good chance he thinks Heimlich didnt do it

And you are sayign the good man, the Christian man, the whatever you want to call it still casts the player aside simply because its the easier thing to do? frick that. If Casey himself thought he was innocent, the right thing to do is let him back on the team. And thats actually taking the difficult path


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lsupride87
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re: Who do we call to ensure we don’t hire a pedophile coddler?
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Heimlich wrote a confession stating that he molested the girl twice, at age 4 then 6. Confessed. Was not coerced. Confessed
Do you understand how plea deals work? Its so funny you responded to Bunch of all people with that


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Not Cooper
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re: Who do we call to ensure we don’t hire a pedophile coddler?
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And if you don't want to be associated with such a toxic situation you sever ties immediately.. no matter how good he throws ball

If only LSU would have followed this advice lol


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