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re: Catholic Church says no to J&J Vaccine
Posted on 3/1/21 at 4:55 pm to Slagathor
Posted on 3/1/21 at 4:55 pm to Slagathor
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they probably all used HEK293 cells for validation but Moderna and Pfizer did not use them in production
Depending on where you draw the bright line there is a huge amount of therapeutics and vaccines that have some involvement with cell lines the church would likely deem problematic. It is unlikely that any COVID vaccines are or will be "Catholic kosher" if you dig deep enough.
The HEK 293 cell line has been around since the early 70s and involved in a huge amount of medical research.
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Posted on 3/1/21 at 4:55 pm to LSUFanHouston
Church would rather see people die, and society not return to normal, because already-aborted stem cells are used. "
Reading comprehension = non existent
Reading comprehension = non existent
Posted on 3/1/21 at 4:58 pm to LSUFanHouston
What's confusing about this decision is Pfizer and Moderna used fetus cell lining too in development
Connection to abortion is "remote" enough
Connection to abortion is "remote" enough
This post was edited on 3/1/21 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 3/1/21 at 5:00 pm to goofball
Some context for those who are interested in it. Of course if you ask any church members they probably think that these companies are out there encouraging hundreds of abortions per day, today, when in reality they've been replicated from a couple abortion almost 40-50 years ago.
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When it comes to the COVID-19 vaccines, at least five candidates undergoing clinical trials use fetal-derived cell lines: from China's CanSino Biologics, the University of Oxford partnered with AstraZeneca, Janssen (a subsidiary of Johnson & Johnson), the University of Pittsburgh and California-based ImmunityBio.
HEK-293, used by four of the developers, is a kidney cell line derived from a fetus aborted in 1972. PER.C6 is a proprietary cell line owned by Janssen that was created from eye cells from an 18-week-old fetus aborted in 1985, according to Science.
This post was edited on 3/1/21 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 3/1/21 at 5:00 pm to LSUFanHouston
Nice troll job.
The Church- and all people with any kind of regard for human life- would prefer to not see people murdered and their organs harvested to create a vaccine for a disease with a minimal chance of causing death. Abortions kill 40,000,000 people worldwide annually and nearly a million Americans annually. A big jump up from COVIDs rookie numbers
The Church- and all people with any kind of regard for human life- would prefer to not see people murdered and their organs harvested to create a vaccine for a disease with a minimal chance of causing death. Abortions kill 40,000,000 people worldwide annually and nearly a million Americans annually. A big jump up from COVIDs rookie numbers
Posted on 3/1/21 at 5:02 pm to Quatre Pot
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Of course if you ask any church members they probably think that these companies are out there encouraging hundreds of abortions per day, today
Called it!!!
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Nice troll job.
The Church- and all people with any kind of regard for human life- would prefer to not see people murdered and their organs harvested to create a vaccine for a disease with a minimal chance of causing death. Abortions kill 40,000,000 people worldwide annually and nearly a million Americans annually. A big jump up from COVIDs rookie numbers
ETA: Also, can I get a fact check on that 40,000,000 abortions per year claim?
This post was edited on 3/1/21 at 5:03 pm
Posted on 3/1/21 at 5:03 pm to goofball
I believe that's called an inconvenient truth. You're supposed to ignore those.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 5:03 pm to LSUFanHouston
Maybe the Catholic church should make a statement condemning abortion before an election.
The fake *President* is a pro choice Catholic.
I didnt know such a thing existed.
The fake *President* is a pro choice Catholic.
I didnt know such a thing existed.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 5:06 pm to LSUFanHouston
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I mean, it seems pretty clear to me.
What seems clear? I asked a pretty straight forward question. Are you unable/unwilling to answer?
Posted on 3/1/21 at 5:06 pm to memphis tiger
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So it’s OK to rape and molest children (as long as you are in the clergy) but don’t get a vaccine from a company it that did some stem cell research?
Makes sense.
Nope. Doesn’t make sense and the HUMANS who perform those heinous crimes will have the most severe consequences to suffer for them. Unfortunately the Church is a reflection of society since it is made up of people and not of gods. The devil unfortunately is successful in breaking the will of humans even those in the Church, but when they are caught they should be severely punished.
But you already knew that. Congrats on being cool
Posted on 3/1/21 at 5:07 pm to blueboxer1119
Do you know any pro choice Catholics?
This post was edited on 3/1/21 at 5:09 pm
Posted on 3/1/21 at 5:07 pm to LSUFanHouston
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We are all morally compromised in some way. But not all of us feel the need to preach to others, while pretending we are not.
How dare the Catholic church preach to its members.
You are a retard.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 5:08 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Church would rather see people die
That’s not at all what is happening
There are other viable options
Posted on 3/1/21 at 5:13 pm to Chucktown_Badger
WHO Abortion Stats
I was wrong. The numbers are now 56mm per year
Look I get it’s cool to bag on Catholics and even cooler to not care about faith. I just pray you don’t ignore the Truth
I was wrong. The numbers are now 56mm per year
Look I get it’s cool to bag on Catholics and even cooler to not care about faith. I just pray you don’t ignore the Truth
Posted on 3/1/21 at 5:15 pm to blueboxer1119
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The fake *President* is a pro choice Catholic.
I didnt know such a thing existed.
It doesn’t exist. There are a lot of people who claim all kinds of stuff but it doesn’t make it true.
Unfortunately the Church has been infiltrated by some bad dudes. This is why it is so important that we keep the foundation of the Church at home and centered in Truth
Posted on 3/1/21 at 5:15 pm to moneyg
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What seems clear? I asked a pretty straight forward question. Are you unable/unwilling to answer?
The Church's stance seems clear... more important to let adults die than use a 40 year old stem cell from an aborted baby.
I don't need to twist anything... it seems pretty clear to me.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 5:15 pm to Tyga Woods
quote:And these options also used cell lines that originated from aborted fetuses.
There are other viable options
Posted on 3/1/21 at 5:17 pm to moneyg
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How dare the Catholic church preach to its members.
You realize the Church is morally compromised, right?
Jesus isn't, God isn't, the Holy Spirit isn't. But Church leaders sure are.
But hey, I'm glad Aymond took time out from hiding in "bankruptcy" to address this.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 5:17 pm to LSUFanHouston
quote:There are other options out there and they are more effective.
Interesting. Church would rather see people die, and society not return to normal, because already-aborted stem cells are used
Posted on 3/1/21 at 5:17 pm to Paul Allen
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Do you know any pro choice Catholics?
Those are like Baptists in the liquor store.
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