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re: Wife wants a Peloton, but open to knockoffs if they're solid. Any suggestions?

Posted on 2/24/21 at 10:11 am to
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129044 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 10:11 am to
He makes me laugh and smile. And I like his 90s pop playlists

One of his playlists he called his “basic bitch bops” and it was so true. And I so loved that ride
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
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Posted on 2/24/21 at 10:12 am to
How big of a girl is she?
Posted by YNWA
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 2/24/21 at 10:13 am to
I would have her try it out a few times at a place like Cycle Bar or the gym. Plus it will take a good month or two before you get the Peloton based on their delivt schedule.
Posted by Winston Cup
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Posted on 2/24/21 at 10:14 am to
post pics of you fat wife
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
22190 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 10:14 am to
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Plus it will take a good month or two before you get the Peloton based on their delivt schedule.


I looked into buying a used one and the key thing you lose is the warranty. You can find a few used ones in the $1500-$2000 range on Facebook marketplace.
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11685 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 10:15 am to
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I would say forget the knockoffs and get the Peloton. It's a better piece of equipment by a lot.



Wife got hers mid-March of last year. She has over 300 rides on it. Nice piece of equipment. I think it is worth the money, IF the person uses it.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129044 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 10:15 am to
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My wife wanted the Peloton and I got her the Scwinn IC4. She uses it all the time and pays for the peleton classes. Win/Win.


I rode a decent quality spin bike at the gym with the Peloton app for a year or so. Then got a real Peloton.

There really is no comparison...real Peloton is wayyyyyyy better. No guessing what a 45 resistance is on whatever bike you have. Can see all your metrics, etc. Plus the bike itself is just MUCH better quality.


Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31441 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 10:18 am to
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Just get a commercial laundry hanging system. It would be money better spent.


I love this school of thought from the fat out if shape guys.

Newsflash, home gyms and exercise equipment is the future and many(including a bunch on the H&F board) lift and exercise at home all the time.

Also understand not everyone lives in a big city with badass instructors. Many hate the gym or have mutiple kids and can't get to the gym.

Save the dumbass comments a out an expensive clothes hanger. Just because you and your fat wife never use your 10 year old manual treadmill or that you didn't use the beach body programs you bought.

And nobody wants a dumb road bike and trainer. It is not even close to the same as spin bike. Most people aren't working out to become so road warrior.

People need to realize that things like the mirror, peloton, tonal, concept2 rowers and bikes and online interactive classes are the future of fitness. People are busier than ever snd don't have the time or the desire to go to the gym
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 2/24/21 at 10:21 am to
1, 2, 3, 1
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
24057 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 10:23 am to
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Try replicating hill climbing for 30 straight minutes in Louisiana


I'm not in Louisiana (and there's a reason for that).

FWIW, I have a sub-16 lb dura ace road bike in the garage AND magnetic resistance trainer bike in my basement. I know the advantage and disadvantages of both.

Look as I said, I used to ride THOUSANDS of miles a year. The best bang for you training bucks is NOT consistent up hill riding. It's interval training riding at 85%-95% of your VO2 max for 3 min to 5 mins and with 1/2 interval rest period.

If you look at a Power vs Speed calculator for a bike you'll see that the two biggest factors a cyclist most over come is wind resistance (Fa = 0.5 * Cd * A * ? * (v + w)²)
where

Fa is the aerodynamic drag,
Cd is the drag coefficient,
A is your frontal area,
? is the air density,
v is your speed,
w is the wind speed (positive for head wind and negative for tail wind).

and slope (Fg = g * sin(arctan(slope)) * (M + m)).

where
Fr is the rolling resistance,
g is the gravitational acceleration, equal to 9.80655 m/s²,
slope is the slope of the hill, expressed as a percentage (positive for going uphill and negative for going downhill),
M is your weight in kg,
m is the weight of your bicycle and any extra gear in kg,
Crr is the rolling resistance coefficient.

If you do the math, you'll find that both essentially have a logarithmic effect on power reduction.

So you don't need hills obtain that training levels. You need the commitment to hammer for those 3-5 mins. What most people don't have is that commitment to keep the hammer down for that long on flat roads (where a hill forces you to keep pushing). One of the hardest workouts I ever did was 10-12 intervals over a mile course into a raging headwind (And I once rode from sea level to 10,000' over the course of 35 miles on Maui). I will concede, that unless you have 1-2 miles of open clear road, it can be difficult to get those interval times without real world interruptions (stop lights/signs and traffic). When riding alone most people simply "ride" (tool along) at a base level somewhere between 50-60% of their VO2 max.

BUT, the reason I suggested doing both a stationary trainer and a road bike have more to do with physical fitness. There is the mental fitness aspect as well. There is something about being out of the house and on the road that cannot be duplicated on a trainer. Riding in a group with other riders is way better than riding in a virtual "studio" I know for many people that may not be as feasible than for me where I can jump on my bike and be riding in a national forest in 20-30 mins...

But as I also said, to the OP just go ahead and get the peloton and be done with it...
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
24057 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 10:25 am to
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My wife has absolutely no interest in becoming a cyclist on the road and that completely defeats the point of a quick workout in the house while the kids are there.



Read the next to last paragraph of my expanded comment above. Please note I said my real advice was get both a road bike a interactive magnetic stationary trainer (just not the peloton).
This post was edited on 2/24/21 at 10:27 am
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 10:26 am to
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People are busier than ever snd don't have the time or the desire to go to the gym


I'll have another Twinkie to that!
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
22190 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 10:26 am to
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If you look at a Power vs Speed calculator for a bike you'll see that the two biggest factors a cyclist most over come is wind resistance (Fa = 0.5 * Cd * A * ? * (v + w)²)
where




Problem solved

Oh and if we're dick swinging, this is my baby, well one just like it.




But there's no dismissing the value of a bike like the Peloton, I still love riding them.
This post was edited on 2/24/21 at 10:29 am
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 10:27 am to
quote:

I'm not in Louisiana (and there's a reason for that).

FWIW, I have a sub-16 lb dura ace road bike in the garage AND magnetic resistance trainer bike in my basement. I know the advantage and disadvantages of both.

Look as I said, I used to ride THOUSANDS of miles a year. The best bang for you training bucks is NOT consistent up hill riding. It's interval training riding at 85%-95% of your VO2 max for 3 min to 5 mins and with 1/2 interval rest period.

If you look at a Power vs Speed calculator for a bike you'll see that the two biggest factors a cyclist most over come is wind resistance (Fa = 0.5 * Cd * A * ? * (v + w)²)
where

Fa is the aerodynamic drag,
Cd is the drag coefficient,
A is your frontal area,
? is the air density,
v is your speed,
w is the wind speed (positive for head wind and negative for tail wind).

and slope (Fg = g * sin(arctan(slope)) * (M + m)).

where
Fr is the rolling resistance,
g is the gravitational acceleration, equal to 9.80655 m/s²,
slope is the slope of the hill, expressed as a percentage (positive for going uphill and negative for going downhill),
M is your weight in kg,
m is the weight of your bicycle and any extra gear in kg,
Crr is the rolling resistance coefficient.

If you do the math, you'll find that both essentially have a logarithmic effect on power reduction.

So you don't need hills obtain that training levels. You need the commitment to hammer for those 3-5 mins. What most people don't have is that commitment to keep the hammer down for that long on flat roads (where a hill forces you to keep pushing). One of the hardest workouts I ever did was 10-12 intervals over a mile course into a raging headwind (And I once rode from sea level to 10,000' over the course of 35 miles on Maui). I will concede, that unless you have 1-2 miles of open clear road, it can be difficult to get those interval times without real world interruptions (stop lights/signs and traffic). When riding alone most people simply "ride" (tool along) at a base level somewhere between 50-60% of their VO2 max.

BUT, the reason I suggested doing both a stationary trainer and a road bike have more to do with physical fitness. There is the mental fitness aspect as well. There is something about being out of the house and on the road that cannot be duplicated on a trainer. Riding in a group with other riders is way better than riding in a virtual "studio" I know for many people that may not be as feasible than for me where I can jump on my bike and be riding in a national forest in 20-30 mins...

But as I also said, to the OP just go ahead and get the peloton and be done with it...


You typed all this shite and no one cares. Certainly not the mother of 3 trying to get 30 minutes of exercise of a day.

Here's the approval your seeking for being a cyclist though.
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
5567 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 10:27 am to
quote:

BUT, the reason I suggested doing both a stationary trainer and a road bike have more to do with physical fitness. There is the mental fitness aspect as well.

Just get her a road bike and some rollers and tell her to harden the frick up.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
24057 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 10:28 am to
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Problem solved


Now ride it uphill... .
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31441 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 10:28 am to
quote:

I'll have another Twinkie to that!


well many still want to get a good workout in.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13710 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 10:28 am to
quote:

How big of a girl is she?



My wife is 5'5" ~120 lbs

She ain't fat - even after 3 kids. She used to be a workout warrior and took yoga or Pure Barre twice a week and ran several miles a couple times a week in between.

Her knees started bothering her a couple years ago (ran her whole life) so she stopped running and started using bikes at the gym and loved it. So that's why she wants a Peloton.

She wants to use the Peloton for the yoga classes too.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
24057 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 10:30 am to
quote:

You typed all this shite and no one cares. Certainly not the mother of 3 trying to get 30 minutes of exercise of a day.

Here's the approval your seeking for being a cyclist though.


Look, I'm a dad too. I went from thousands of miles a year on a road bike to almost zero. Why? Because I had a kid. So I TOTALLY get the challenge of trying to work out with kids in the picture. But guess what? We got the kid a mtb last year and started going on our first trail rides.

As I said, there is the mental aspect of getting away from the daily grind in the house where you don't have to think about the kids for 30-60 mins that is liberating (and doesn't come with a $39 month subscription).

So nothing last forever.
This post was edited on 2/24/21 at 10:33 am
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13710 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 10:30 am to
quote:

Read the next to last paragraph of my expanded comment above. Please note I said my real advice was get both a road bike a interactive magnetic stationary trainer (just not the peloton).



You and her having completely different priorities/preferences. Thanks for the advice, but I think you're barking up the wrong tree.

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