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Sweden is moving away from its no-lockdown strategy amid rising coronavirus cases

Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:13 am
Posted by Street Hawk
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Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:13 am
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After opting against lockdown measures throughout the coronavirus pandemic, Sweden is said to be shifting strategies toward the kinds of restrictive measures adopted by most of its neighbors.

Anders Tegnell, Sweden's state epidemiologist, is set to meet with local health officials over the next week to discuss new measures to introduce in response to outbreaks in Stockholm and the nearby city of Uppsala, The Telegraph reported.

Unlike its Nordic neighbors and most other countries, Sweden did not deploy wholesale lockdown measures in response to the first wave of the coronavirus pandemic earlier this year.

Instead, the government led by Prime Minister Stefan Lofven allowed shops, bars, and restaurants to remain mostly open and students to attend school.

Sweden has recorded a much higher per capita death rate than its neighbors since adopting this strategy. It had recorded 5,918 deaths as of Sunday, compared with 278 in Norway and 346 in Finland.

Dr. Joacim Rocklov of Umea University told The Telegraph that after being an outlier earlier in the year, Sweden was shifting to a strategy closer to those adopted by most other governments.


It will give local authorities the power to strongly recommend people to avoid busy public places like shopping centers, museums, gyms, concerts, and sports matches. Swedes may also be asked to avoid public transport and contact with those considered most vulnerable to severe infection.

"What's happened in the last couple of weeks is a movement towards a similar model to what has been used in Norway and many other countries," he said. "It's very obvious that it's a new strategy, but still, the newspapers report on 'the Swedish strategy' as if it were fixed in March."

Johan Nojd, who heads Uppsala's infectious-diseases department, suggested that he would be prepared to introduce harsher restrictions for the city like new rules for hospitality if the number of cases in the city continued to grow.

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Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:15 am to
They have like 1 "death" / day on average.

Why change?
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
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Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:15 am to
No! Hold the line damnit
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:15 am to

It will give local authorities the power to strongly recommend people to avoid busy public places like shopping centers, museums, gyms, concerts, and sports matches. Swedes may also be asked to avoid public transport and contact with those considered most vulnerable to severe infection.


They need to have permission to strongly recommend something?
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66505 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:15 am to
But looked how good Sweden is doing!?!?!?
Posted by JetsetNuggs
Member since Jun 2014
13996 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:16 am to
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strongly recommend


quote:

may also be asked


So they can still do whatever the frick they want. Sounds like what America should be.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:17 am to
Muh 2 weeks behind Italy!
Posted by LSUCanFAN
In the past
Member since Jan 2009
28072 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:18 am to
So it’s been 6000 days since March? I know it feels like that but at nearly 6000 deaths in Sweden that’s not really 1 per day.
Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
3994 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:18 am to
so government realized it missed an opportunity to wrangle more power, and now it's rethinking its decision.

and ppl are surprised?

virus fear is window dressing. it's the australian shepherd. You're the sheep.

eta: 1 Downvote = 1 "baaaaaaaaa"
This post was edited on 10/19/20 at 10:23 am
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:19 am to
There should only be a lockdown if the hospital system is truly overwhelmed, which is what we should have done from the start
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72216 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:19 am to
quote:

It will give local authorities the power to strongly recommend people to avoid busy public places like shopping centers, museums, gyms, concerts, and sports matches. Swedes may also be asked to avoid public transport and contact with those considered most vulnerable to severe infection.
Seems to be the exact same thing they are currently doing, but with a cordial “asking” added on.



Love how the local governments have to get permission just to “ask”.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83650 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:20 am to
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Unlike in other countries, however, there are not expected to be fines or legal consequences for people who decide not to follow any new advice. Bitte Brastad, the chief legal officer at Sweden's public-health agency, said the rules were "something in between regulations and recommendations."


kinda left this out of your OP
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18267 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:20 am to
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They have like 1 "death" / day on average.


TIL there are at least 5,918 days in year
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134904 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:20 am to
quote:

Seems to be the exact same thing they are currently doing, but with a cordial “asking” added on.



Love how the local governments have to get permission just to “ask”.


You literally can’t get more Swedish than that
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72216 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:20 am to
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Unlike in other countries, however, there are not expected to be fines or legal consequences for people who decide not to follow any new advice.
Yea, that is pretty important.

So, just to reiterate, Sweden isn’t actually doing anything different.





Posted by cattus
Member since Jan 2009
13470 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:21 am to


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that’s not really 1 per day


Herd immunity has it's cost but will have benefits.
Posted by arkyhawk
SWMO
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:21 am to
*grabs popcorn*
Posted by LSUCanFAN
In the past
Member since Jan 2009
28072 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:22 am to
#notmygrandparents lol
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68490 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:22 am to
Yup

This is no longer about protecting people, it’s about controlling us; this virus will be like the flu from now on.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95949 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:24 am to
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5,918 deaths
For a population of 10.23 million

Louisiana has a population of 4.6 million and they have 5,550 deaths


Yeh lockdowns totally make sense
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