re: Sweden is moving away from its no-lockdown strategy amid rising coronavirus cases

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Slow the spread till we can manage the disease.

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And you don’t think we’re there? When?

Actually answer something

How many lockdowns? What does managing the disease even mean?

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And you don’t think we’re there? When?

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Honestly we may be. The mortality rates are way lower and it seems like we’re getting through the other side of this things.

I am support of opening up the economy in places where this is true.

I am Just pointing out that Sweden’s model lead to more cases during the worst of the pandemic and didn’t provide any economic relief. They didn’t reach herd immunity.

If a. Vaccine came out tomorrow they would have basically just sacrificed a bunch of old people.

Furthermore, Sweden’s economy has done better than their other European counterparts. Of course a less global and weaker economies, especially when they still saw Q1 growth unlike their counterparts.

11.9% for the EU compared to 8.6%. Spain went -18.5% and France -13.8.

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They have like 1 "death" / day on average.

Why change?

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Deep State is getting them back in line.

Curious, did that guy do that for all countries as best as can be done?

I'd like to see the new rankings. Would be interesting if there were any real rearrangement or if everybody would just proportionally go down.

I still think depending how sensitive your COVID test is and your temporal criteria to relate a death to a positive test, you'd still would not be comparing apples to apples.

Math is hard.

This will end up just like the war on terror. In ten years we will wonder why we spent 2.2 trillion plus on one disease that kills at max 5% of 75 and up and at minimum .001% of the population. No you won't have permanent effects from it unless you already had lung problems and even that is rare. Do you know how many chemo treatments/cancer screenings we missed because of this bullshite? Suicides have tripled, overdoses, dv murders, starvation in 3rd world countries. The bill and Melinda gates charity estimates that at 1.7 million more Africans will die of TB due to the money for it being diverted to covid. You guys can keep worrying about the super cold, I have moved on since March. Maybe if you vote for Biden it will end though?
So which side is making this political again?

"If you're tired of lockdowns, or you're tired of wearing masks, or you wish you were in church this morning or watching college football or your kids were in-person instruction, it is time for change in this country, and that's why we've got to elect Joe Biden," Whitmer told Chuck Todd on "Meet the Press"


vote for Biden and this will end

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"If you're tired of lockdowns, or you're tired of wearing masks, or you wish you were in church this morning or watching college football or your kids were in-person instruction, it is time for change in this country, and that's why we've got to elect Joe Biden," Whitmer told Chuck Todd on "Meet the Press"

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That kook queen of the lockdowns bitch is saying vote biden to stop the virus.

Well there you have the fricking extortion laid bare.

Look up "Swedish tax benefits for Spotify and Ikea". Look up why they are both publicly traded on American exchanges and how that affects them in Sweden. Except for the few industries their planned economy has decided to subsidize, they have the highest effective tax rate and highest effective public entitlement rate in the developed world. They have a top-down economy and government that is completely antithetical to our constitution and freedoms. They're effectively socialist (with a nasty oligarchy) and damn good at it. I don't think it's right/wrong or good/bad, just completely misunderstood, including by you.

Foundation for economic education, which is really conservative-

"One aspect of taxes in Sweden that is not well known is that while taxes are high on labor, they are relatively low for corporations (22 percent) and capital. Keeping taxes low keeps corporations and capital from going to other countries. The 1994 changes in government deregulated everything from taxis, air service, railroads, electricity, telecom, and school choice.

While taxes are high on labor, they are relatively low for corporations.

The open-competition school choice model in Sweden would trigger U.S. teacher unions into a froth. Parents and pupils decide what school they want to attend, and they are all paid for by taxes. Corporations, towns, charities, religions, most anyone and anything can start a school, but it’s up to parents and pupils if they want to attend. The more people who choose a particular school determines if that school will get more government funding.

The fiscal side of Sweden has become increasingly pro-free market, ranking 15th globally while the US ranks 18th. These capitalist features have helped sustain Sweden’s standard of living, but dark clouds are on the horizon. The nation has an aging workforce coupled with a slowing birthrate (1.67 per female, well below the 2.1 needed for a population to maintain its population). Decades without significant construction in cities has resulted in skyrocketing housing prices, while high wages leave many unskilled workers, both Swedish and foreign-born, on the fringes of the labor market."

Sweden is in the top 20 most economically free countries on every list that is respected, even coming at 22 from the ultra-orthodox heritage foundation.

high taxes =/ socialism.
I'm guessing you are a boomer no?