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re: Louisiana Supreme Court waives bar exam for 2020 applicants

Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:27 pm to
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:27 pm to
What a fricking joke.

A fricking joke.

Posted by BrohanDavey
The Land Down Under
Member since Oct 2018
705 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:29 pm to
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Woah, I mean they will eventually have to take it right?


Wrong. They have to get 25 hours of CLE credit and participate in the LA State Bar Association’s “transition into practice program” which they had to do anyway
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
11768 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:29 pm to
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This will be an unmitigated disaster


Malpractice insurance rates about to skyrocket.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80475 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:32 pm to
Family law, criminal defense and plaintiffs personal injury are about to get interesting. I’d love to be an insurance defense lawyer for six months to see what types of pleadings will cross their desk
Posted by joebauers
Future
Member since Jul 2020
98 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:37 pm to
Close friend of mine got his law license from Costo.
Posted by MattA
Member since Nov 2019
1616 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:38 pm to
There’s already tons of shady lawyers out there anyway, but at least they earned the right to be shady. Passing the bar is a right of passage, and getting it the easy way is a non-starter imho. I’m sure some of these newbs will go on to be very successful attorneys, great life, yada yada, but I could never see them as a 100% equal. Gotta go through the suck to earn that.
Posted by Epaminondas
The Boot
Member since Jul 2020
4288 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:39 pm to
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25 hours of online CLE is an entirely meaningless "at least we did something" concession

Yeah. Extra CLE hours are worthless even if they could be done in person. The layperson won't necessarily understand this. It may be different for newly admitted attorneys, but the general requirement is 12.5 hours of CLE. So, they just have to take double continuing legal education hours. Whether taken in person or online, CLE is basically someone speaking. The only requirement is to either be present for a live CLE or have it playing on your computer for online CLE. You don't have to pay attention. There is no test. At CLE's, attendees play video games, check email, look at social media, etc.

Getting some extra CLE is in no way comparable to taking the bar exam. Most of them just got out of law school. They don't need more classes. They need a bar exam to see if they learned enough in those classes.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26710 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:40 pm to
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They need a bar exam to see if they learned enough in those classes


In my experience the bar exam has nothing to do with what you are taught during your time in law school.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:43 pm to
this is totally fricked
Posted by brewhan davey
Audubon Place
Member since Sep 2010
32816 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:44 pm to
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Hard to argue with that logic at all


Yeah, Crain's dissent is solid.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67165 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:45 pm to
I mean This is mostly so a entire class of new attorneys aren’t unemployed till The end of the year.

Unlike you, they never had a chance to take the bar. Your clearly have had decades to do it.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80475 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:46 pm to
Let’s assume an 80% pass rate, which is on the high end. 500 new lawyers means a legit 100 would not have passed. They just admitted 100 people who are not competent to practice law.

I can’t wait to see the carnage
This post was edited on 7/22/20 at 12:46 pm
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18365 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:46 pm to
2019 July Bar Passage Rates

LSU 85.6%
Tulane 78.6%
Loyola 74.8%
Southern 64%

Now everybody graduates and gets in based on precedence of one year during the Korean War.

So now covid is a pandemic that equates to one year during a war.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:49 pm to
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Let’s assume an 80% pass rate, which is on the high end. 500 new lawyers means a legit 100 would not have passed. They just admitted 100 people who are not competent to practice law.

the supreme court cannot ever argue again that the bar exam is a necessary or prophylactic step. they just invalidated the purpose of the bar exam entirely
This post was edited on 7/22/20 at 12:50 pm
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
22741 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:52 pm to
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the supreme court cannot ever argue again that the bar exam is a necessary or prophylactic step. they just invalidated the purpose of the bar exam entirely


Exactly. Was sitting with a law clerk today when the news came out. He interrupted me to tell me that "I'm now a lawyer". I guess I'm happy for him but disappointed that they don't have to endure what we did.

It is a similar feeling as when fraternity hazing was abolished.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18365 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:53 pm to
2019 July Bar Passage Rates

LSU 85.6%
Tulane 78.6%
Loyola 74.8%
Southern 64%
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35553 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:53 pm to
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Did you ever save up enough to fix that flat on your bmx bike? How have you been getting to work since the flat?




wut
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80475 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:55 pm to
I’m not even sure it’s able to be challenged. Equal protection claim in fed court by an applicant who failed and still has to take it? Or someone who graduated in 2018 but hasn’t taken it? Even that seems tenuous
This post was edited on 7/22/20 at 12:56 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424677 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:56 pm to
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but disappointed that they don't have to endure what we did.

i don't even care about that

if they want to have the bar exam, it has to mean something. if they agree it's OK to randomly rescind the requirement, then it has no meaning

i hope some students who graduated but aren't "qualified" sue for an injunction. that would be glorious.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424677 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:57 pm to
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I’m not even sure it’s able to be challenged. Equal protection claim in fed court by an applicant who failed and still has to take it? Even that seems tenuous


yeah that's kind of what i just wrote. somebody from this class who isn't "qualified" is getting legit fricked

the LASC has been slapped down by the federal courts recently for their ad rules, so it's possible

this is the problem in granting the LASC all of this power without any oversight
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