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re: Louisiana Supreme Court waives bar exam for 2020 applicants

Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:17 pm to
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:17 pm to
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the supreme court cannot ever argue again that the bar exam is a necessary or prophylactic step. they just invalidated the purpose of the bar exam entirely


I wonder how they will address the criminal defendant who alleges incompetent representation because he was represented by a "no bar exam" lawyer?
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:17 pm to
Split applicants in half by lottery. Half take it one week, socially distanced, and half take it the next week, same way

Make big deal about two versions of the test. Then just give them the same version.

So easy
This post was edited on 7/22/20 at 1:20 pm
Posted by ThePoo
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:18 pm to
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If I had already put in hours of studying over the summer, and now had additional time to study before taking it in October, I would take it.
or if you took out a bar study loan


I'd likely take it just because I'd always have that feeling in the back of my mind that I was being looked down upon or judged because of circumstance

I would 100% be self-conscious about being a new lawyer with no bar passage under my belt
This post was edited on 7/22/20 at 1:21 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:18 pm to
You would need 2 tests. And honestly if one has a statistically lower passage rate look out.

Posted by brewhan davey
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:20 pm to
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I'd likely take it just because I'd always have that feeling in the back of my mind that I was being looked down upon or judged because of circumstance

I would 100% be self-conscious about be a new lawyer with no bar passage under my belt


Same here. But I know that many would not give af
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:21 pm to
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You would need 2 tests. And honestly if one has a statistically lower passage rate look out.



There’s plenty enough vacant space in the state that it could easily administered to everyone at the same time.
Posted by DevilDagNS
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:22 pm to
Go luck getting hired or getting malpractice insurance.

That being said, the bar exam is a right of passage more than it has anything to do with the practice of law.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:23 pm to
It’s mostly a gatekeeper for out of state attorneys.

But yeah there are plenty who pass who are terrible attorneys.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:23 pm to
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Was sitting with a law clerk today when the news came out. He interrupted me to tell me that "I'm now a lawyer". I guess I'm happy for him but disappointed that they don't have to endure what we did.

It is a similar feeling as when fraternity hazing was abolished.



That shite allowed the weak in the fraternity and this waiver will do the same for the law profession in the state of LA.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:23 pm to
I’m only here for the Louisiana trial lawyer melts.
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:24 pm to
this is fricking hilarious. From now on every lawyer I talk to I will ask what year they got into the BAR, if they say 2020 I'll make sure everyone I know knows not to do business with them because they aren't really a lawyer
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:28 pm to
That’s what I’m thinking. If you get DP, won’t firms give preference to people who actually passed the bar exam?

Who is more likely to get hired? An LSU Law grad with a B range GPA who passed the bar on their second try or a SULC grad with a C+ GPA who got diploma privilege?
This post was edited on 7/22/20 at 1:29 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:31 pm to
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But I know that many would not give af

the people who don't give af the most are probably the ones for whom the bar exam exists
Posted by brewhan davey
Audubon Place
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:32 pm to


Precisely
Posted by BayouBandit24
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:32 pm to
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That being said, the bar exam is a right of passage more than it has anything to do with the practice of law


Sure. But it also acts as one last chance to cull out some dummies.
This post was edited on 7/22/20 at 1:39 pm
Posted by DevilDagNS
Member since Dec 2017
2976 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:34 pm to
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Who is more likely to get hired? An LSU Law grad with a B range GPA who passed the bar on their second try or a SULC grad with a C+ GPA who got diploma privilege?


An LSU grad who graduated last in his class and failed the bar 4 times and has three DUIs is getting hired before the president of SLUC’s law review who passed on first shot. Hypothetically speaking.
Posted by ThePoo
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:35 pm to
we offer no bar reciprocity to other states and yet we are not requiring our own lawyers to pass the bar
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:35 pm to
I just read the Crain dissent and he was spot on by why this is a horrible idea. Even California and New York have resisted going this far.
Posted by GWfool
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:37 pm to
What a terrible "solution." At best, this should have been a deferral and a requirement to take it in 2021 and just add another testing date for these candidates.

How can you effectively govern the bar and the licensing when you're admitting attorneys without any minimum requirements? As others have said these people will all have an asterisk by their names.
Posted by ThePoo
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:38 pm to
it opens up a whole can of potential legal issues and ramifications

but they will kick this can so far down that road that it will circle the globe and hit them in the arse
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