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re: Is anyone still blown away that no defense has been able to find our tendencies?
Posted on 12/9/19 at 8:30 am to KamaCausey_LSU
Posted on 12/9/19 at 8:30 am to KamaCausey_LSU
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Georgia was the best defense LSU played all year. A ton of the catches were contested and they did a very good job shutting down the running game. Burrow is just that good and he had time to throw.
Georgia had a couple of three and outs where they played excellent defense. They just couldn't do it enough. Not even close to enough.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 8:31 am to The Pirate King
Georgia pretty effectively took away CEH for the most part, and did a nice job defending the deep pass as well.
LSU just has too many weapons though. Joe progresses through his reads so quickly and improvised so well that a play will almost always be there.
Defenses have a rudimentary understanding of what LSU will do on probably 80% of our offensive plays, but they can't stop it anyway.
LSU just has too many weapons though. Joe progresses through his reads so quickly and improvised so well that a play will almost always be there.
Defenses have a rudimentary understanding of what LSU will do on probably 80% of our offensive plays, but they can't stop it anyway.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 8:31 am to Not Cooper
This.
Joe Burrow is making plays even when defense has it covered.
Joe Burrow is making plays even when defense has it covered.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 8:33 am to TigerAxeOK
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Georgia pretty effectively took away CEH for the most part, and did a nice job defending the deep pass as well.
That's what makes this offense so impressive. They made us "one dimensional" and still got shredded to pieces.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 8:34 am to The Pirate King
I thought Kirby summed it up well in the postgame. We don't do anything particularly fancy, we just have outstanding athletes on the field all at the same time all who know how to do their job nearly flawlessly and all who present matchup nightmares to any defense. There are so many ways we can kill a defense with our basic sets, we don't really need to sub all that often so we can use tempo whenever we want. It's just a perfect storm and I don't know that there is a solution to slowing down this offense with this personnel.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 8:34 am to sweetwaterbilly
This. Very similar to ‘95 Nebraska. Everyone had it “figured out” but no one could stop it.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 8:37 am to The Boat
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The layered routes are the biggest challenge. Most college offenses run 2D routes. LSU’s running 3D multiple level underwater chess routes.
Someone underneath, someone up top, then you hit Jefferson in the middle around 12 yards.
I believe this is correct...Its hard to stop everything so you try and stop the run we will dump right over you...you back up and try and stop the pass we will play match up and find the weakest link which most of the time is CEH on a LB...if for some odd reason they stop it all...JB is gone
Posted on 12/9/19 at 8:39 am to The Pirate King
quote:That play needs a play action pop pass to Jefferson for a TD. It would be there. We’ve ran it for 2 years without any other plays off of it. It’s a zone read for Burrow or Clyde every time. Hopefully the staff builds off of it come playoffs
I would say the only tendency I’ve seen kind of figured out is hurry up zone read on 3rd and short, but usually our line just bulldozes their way to a first down.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 8:40 am to TigerStripes30
Another sign of a great offense: lack of trick/gimmick plays. Have we run any this year?
Posted on 12/9/19 at 8:40 am to The Pirate King
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Is anyone still blown away that no defense has been able to find our tendencies?
They have.
Big reason why Chase was held to 3 catches Saturday.
The problem is that in our base offense, there are 5 legit threats and there is a progression to get them open at different times. Joe knows the offense so well, he knows what to do when the defense takes something away.
It is literally almost an unstoppable force.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 8:43 am to The Pirate King
Kirby straight up said before the game and after, that they know the plays, they run the same plays, but LSU runs them more efficiently than anyone else.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 8:44 am to NC_Tigah
quote:Underappreciated comment.
I think they have.
LSU tends to score.
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Posted on 12/9/19 at 8:46 am to The Pirate King
after the georgia southern game, joe mentioned that the offense cannot be stopped unless he misreads. he said that if he makes the right reads, it's impossible. so....thankfully, he's reading properly.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 8:47 am to The Pirate King
Defenses cannot focus on stopping 1 or 2 guys. Too many weapons. 3 great WR's, great TE and great RB. And a QB that can extend plays, change plays and run when needed. And JB whose scheme gives Burrow so many options.Pick your poison. Only way we are stopped is if Burrow gets injured. Other than that, I don't see any defense "stopping" us. A bad game will be 25 points. That's enough to win if your D shows up.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 8:47 am to The Pirate King
Teams have figured it out. But in the words of Joe Brady,
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Posted on 12/9/19 at 8:48 am to The Pirate King
Its tough. We can do a lot of things.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 8:49 am to The Pirate King
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Is anyone still blown away that no defense has been able to find our tendencies?
That’s incredible to me
There is a tipping point on offenses when you have enough quality players and a quality scheme.
LSU has an answer for pretty much every coverage teams decide to employ. Our 3rd WR is a major mismatch, and our RB is even a bigger mismatch. And, if you decide to pay them attention, Chase and Jefferson are going to destroy you.
So, the next best defense is to not be sound and blitz...and Burrow has shredded the blitz this year.
If a team figures out a way of stopping LSU it won't be because they've figured out tendencies. It will be because they found a way of disguising their defenses so effectively, that Burrown is no longer making the right decisions.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 8:54 am to The Pirate King
I think it really has to do with 2 things.
The first is the way the offense is designed. Realistically speaking, a defense can only truly neutralize 2 options in the passing game with double coverage. Unless you have 2 CBs you can trust to be on a island all game, that's the best you can hope for. With the concepts Joe Brady has brought in, the moment you try to take away one option, you put yourself at a disadvantage matchup wise. You leave someone in single coverage that has to go up against some ridiculous route runners all the way across the offense for LSU. Your only hope to try and pressure Joe. Which leads to the second thing.
Joe Burrow has next level pocket awareness. The kid just has that 6th sense. It's incredible to watch his movements in the pocket and even more so once he gets outside. We've all said it all year, the kid is a once in a generation player.
The first is the way the offense is designed. Realistically speaking, a defense can only truly neutralize 2 options in the passing game with double coverage. Unless you have 2 CBs you can trust to be on a island all game, that's the best you can hope for. With the concepts Joe Brady has brought in, the moment you try to take away one option, you put yourself at a disadvantage matchup wise. You leave someone in single coverage that has to go up against some ridiculous route runners all the way across the offense for LSU. Your only hope to try and pressure Joe. Which leads to the second thing.
Joe Burrow has next level pocket awareness. The kid just has that 6th sense. It's incredible to watch his movements in the pocket and even more so once he gets outside. We've all said it all year, the kid is a once in a generation player.
This post was edited on 12/9/19 at 8:55 am
Posted on 12/9/19 at 8:54 am to The Pirate King
It’s crazy watching a college QB lineup, audible, back out, audible for a second time, snap the ball with 1 second on the play clock and then get a first down.
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