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Nearly 1 in 3 US physicians were born abroad

Posted on 12/6/18 at 7:18 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 12/6/18 at 7:18 am
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Nearly 1 in 3 US physicians were born abroad December 5, 2018
by Marie Mccullough
December 5, 2018


At a time when immigration is a hot-button issue, the American health care system is highly dependent on professionals born in other countries, an analysis of U.S. census data shows.

In 2016, roughly 17 percent of professionals in 24 medical fields—from optometrists to chiropractors to veterinarians—were foreign-born, and almost 5 percent of them were not U.S. citizens, according to the analysis published this week in the Journal of the American Medical Association. The analysis could not distinguish between professionals trained in their country of origin and those trained in the United States.

The rates were even higher for the most educated providers. About one in five pharmacists, one in four dentists, and 29 percent of physicians—approaching one in three—were foreign-born.

Among one of the biggest occupational groups—psychiatric, nursing and home health aides—23 percent were foreign-born.

"We rely very heavily in health care on those who were born abroad,"

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Our domestic MD shortage is a product of Federal Government policies limiting numbers of US Resident training slots. Those have been in place since the Clinton Administration. The Clinton thesis was, less MDs availability equals lower access and therefore lower healthcare costs.

A side-effect was longer hours for MDs diverting further their involvement in medical administration.set up their loss of control or input when the ACA came along.

A great example of this is is the largest hospital in Charlotte recently removing board certification or even board eligibility as a requisite for practice.

Yes, it's getting bad.
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 12/6/18 at 7:20 am to
I refuse to see any Dr who’s name Mahmoud, Singh, Nguyen, etc. One time they tried to trick me and I walked out of the office!
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103149 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 7:21 am to
More proof that the Dems fail economics forever.


How often has reducing the supply of something lowered costs?
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 12/6/18 at 7:24 am to
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Nearly 1 in 3 US physicians were born abroad



But all of them were born by abroad.
Posted by Big Jim Slade
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 12/6/18 at 7:25 am to
The trans movement is giving the phrase “born abroad” an entirely new meaning.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 12/6/18 at 7:26 am to
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But all of them were born by abroad.
Not by current standards
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
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Posted on 12/6/18 at 7:29 am to

Injuns.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/6/18 at 7:31 am to
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I refuse to see any Dr who’s name Mahmoud, Singh, Nguyen, etc. One time they tried to trick me and I walked out of the office!



And people wonder why they get labeled as Xenophobes
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/6/18 at 7:31 am to
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Injuns.



Well, there are 5 times as many of them as us.

figure all else being equal (which it isn't), the best out of a population 5x bigger is probably better, at least in terms of numbers of high achievers if not producing the very best

I would rather go to an Indian than an affirmative action doctor.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41497 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 7:32 am to
The shortage also has to do with the mandated female quota. It’s known among the medical profession that female physicians do not practice as long, work as many hours, or work at non-big city hospital as often as males. It is essentially a forced labor shortage in the name of equality
Posted by oleheat
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Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 12/6/18 at 7:34 am to
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Nearly 1 in 3 US physicians were born abroad


Jesus. If that's true, this trans-gender thing is really out of control.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 12/6/18 at 7:53 am to
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The shortage also has to do with the mandated female quota.
Though I'm not aware of a "quota" per se, universities are self-imposing those standards.

The rest of your post is spot on.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41497 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 7:56 am to
You’re right, mandated quota may be wrong but they are trying to force the admissions to be 50/50. But as my previous post states, the hours and longevity of female physicians (on the whole) is less than male physicians.
Posted by CptRusty
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Posted on 12/6/18 at 7:58 am to
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The Clinton thesis was, less MDs availability equals lower access and therefore lower healthcare costs.



Posted by burdhead
WOMP WOMP!!
Member since Apr 2017
6008 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 7:58 am to
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I refuse to see any Dr who’s name Mahmoud, Singh, Nguyen, etc. One time they tried to trick me and I walked out of the office!
thats what we do, but this last time, we had no choice with my wife and had to see a gastro group in tuscaloosa that was entirely docvtors from india...they were fantastic and diagnosed my wifes stomach problems that has plagued her for 40 years....american nurses and staff who were great....we still won't go to non-american doctors (except these) but sometimes this philosophy is not in our own best interests....it is the safest philosophy,though
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 7:58 am to
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The Clinton thesis was, less MDs availability equals lower access and therefore lower healthcare costs.


Dear Lord. I'm not going to claim to recall, but please for the love of God tell me that Clinton didn't actually believe reducing supply would drive down costs!!
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
18990 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 7:58 am to
That's 33.33334%!


(Almost 35.0%)
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:00 am to
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And people wonder why they get labeled as Xenophobes



I personally tend to avoid Doctos with such names not because I dislike them or think they aren't competent but because I've had multiple experiences where I couldn't even fully communicate with them. Describing why I'd come to the doctor often felt about the same as talking to tech support on the phone to a dude named "Steve"(whose name was definitely NOT Steve)
Posted by CptRusty
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Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:00 am to
He might have said it, now whether or not he actually believed it is another thing.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
25962 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:01 am to
ACA screwed the industry bigly. The smart ones with specialized and the dumb ones are left treating you and me.


progressivism strikes again and ultimately kills us slowly.
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