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Posted on 12/7/18 at 10:13 am to Jorts R Us
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Good luck with that.
That’s some flawed logic right there.
It's flawed logic to make the assumptions you seem to be making. That's a common ailment though, so no biggie. I'm sure your superstar Pakistani doctor will be able to take care of it for you.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 10:48 am to MrCarton
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It's flawed logic to make the assumptions you seem to be making. That's a common ailment though, so no biggie. I'm sure your superstar Pakistani doctor will be able to take care of it for you.
oh, i’m The one with the assumptions? You seem to be implying that any one with a foreign last name is either foreign born/trained or, if US born/raised, got into med school/residency program without earning it. Based on that flawed logic, you stated you will go see a Caribbean-trained doctor with a “traditional” last name before you explore a doctor with a “foreign” last name. Now, I’m not saying that there aren’t any good Caribbean-trained doctors, but you certainly aren’t playing the odds with that approach. Of course, not every Patel or Nguyen is going to be a rockstar, which is why it’s important to do your homework before you settle on a practitioner, but discounting the qualifications of every one with a “foreign” name is not going to yield you the result you think it will.
This post was edited on 12/7/18 at 10:53 am
Posted on 12/7/18 at 11:20 am to gthog61
quote:As I said, I wasn't aware.
gthog61
However, though not the greatest of sources, this fellow does make a reasonable case supporting your POV:
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2015-2016 medical school acceptance rates suggest that medical schools must have “affirmative discrimination” and “racial profiling” admission policies that favor black and Hispanic applicants over equally qualified Asian and white students. Even if factors other than GPA and MCAT scores (which are probably the two most important ones) are considered for admission to medical school, wouldn’t it still be very hard to conclude that admissions policies to medical schools are completely “race-neutral” and completely free of any “racial profiling” practices that favor blacks and Hispanics over Asians and whites?
LINK
Posted on 12/7/18 at 11:25 am to NC_Tigah
quote:Ya gotta love that a white kid has to be in the highest combination of MCAT/GPA to achieve the acceptance of a black kid in the lowest combination.
However, though not the greatest of sources, this fellow does make a reasonable case supporting your POV:
No. There's no racism there.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 12:17 pm to ShortyRob
quote:I'm not quite ready to make that jump SR.
No. There's no racism there.
But assuming the data is what it claims to be, it's disappointing.
And I have to tell you, my black colleagues, who are outstanding, would undoubtedly find the supposition of affirmative action disappointing as well. Our valedictorian was black. I can guarantee you there was no racial bias on the test grade curves that put him there. It is a real shame others might later assume differently if admission policies are scrutinized.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 12:47 pm to Jorts R Us
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oh, i’m The one with the assumptions?
Yes.
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You seem to be implying that any one with a foreign last name is either foreign born/trained or, if US born/raised, got into med school/residency program without earning it. Based on that flawed logic, you stated you will go see a Caribbean-trained doctor with a “traditional” last name before you explore a doctor with a “foreign” last name. Now, I’m not saying that there aren’t any good Caribbean-trained doctors, but you certainly aren’t playing the odds with that approach. Of course, not every Patel or Nguyen is going to be a rockstar, which is why it’s important to do your homework before you settle on a practitioner, but discounting the qualifications of every one with a “foreign” name is not going to yield you the result you think it will.
Wow. This is an incredible display of incorrect assumptions.
Why don't you go back and read what alive said multiple times until you get it. You shouldn't need to be a Pakistani doctor from a prestigious medical school to understand.
This post was edited on 12/7/18 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 12/7/18 at 1:00 pm to MrCarton
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T-Bruce is the guy you want. He's the guy I want by default, and I don't give two fricks what med school he comes from. Mr. Singhs ability to qualify for X medical school or residency means absolutely nothing to me. I've been around long enough to know the game.
The above is what you wrote. Maybe I don’t follow rthe “game” you make reference to. Why don’t you spell it out for me?
I asked you to clarify what you meant:
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So if I understand you correctly, you’ll See Dr. Smith who went to med school in Dominica before you see Dr. Patel who went to med school state-side?
Your response was
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I literally said exactly that, didn't I?
Spell it out for me. What’s your logic behind avoiding Dr. Patel. Rather than a vague reference to this “game,” you can state what you mean so I’m not forced to guess what you are trying to say.
This post was edited on 12/7/18 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 12/7/18 at 1:07 pm to TeLeFaWx
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the "woah is me" attitude of doctors
I started skipping past your posts in this thread, right here.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 1:11 pm to Jorts R Us
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Spell it out for me. What’s your logic behind avoiding Dr. Patel.
I would choose native over foreign born doctors because foreign born doctors are not as good as native born doctors, on net, and it doesn't matter where they went to school.
This is not a brain teaser exercise. If someone asked me to hire only native born doctors, or only foreign born doctors from *name your prestigious medical school*, I would choose natives every time. So would any other honest, reasonable person. I would say the same about male doctors over female doctors, or white doctors over black doctors, or Asian doctors over African doctors.
Honesty isn't that difficult for me, I guess.
This post was edited on 12/7/18 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 12/7/18 at 1:18 pm to MrCarton
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I would choose native over foreign born doctors because foreign born doctors are not as good as native born doctors, on net, and it doesn't matter where they went to school. This is not a brain teaser exercise. If someone asked me to hire only native born doctors, or only foreign born doctors from *name your prestigious medical school*, I would choose natives every time. So would any other honest, reasonable person.
Your stated criteria for sorting out foreign doctors is last names, which (again) is flawed. There is an increasing number of doctors with foreign last names who grew up and were trained in the US. Many of them are excellent doctors.
Did you discount that population of doctors in your initial response to me or is it all the same to you?
This post was edited on 12/7/18 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 12/7/18 at 1:21 pm to Jorts R Us
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Your stated criteria for sorting out foreign doctors is last names, which (again) is flawed.
Nope. Try reading harder. You can do it.
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There is an increasing number of doctors with foreign last names who grew up and were trained in the US. Many of them are excellent doctors.
You are trying very hard right now, aren't you?
Posted on 12/7/18 at 1:23 pm to MrCarton
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Nope. Try reading harder. You can do it.
That’s why I asked you to clarify. You flat out stated you’d avoid a Patel trained in the US over a Smith trained in the Caribbean. No further questions asked.
If you would like to qualify your response, here is your chance.
This post was edited on 12/7/18 at 1:27 pm
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