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re: Nearly 1 in 3 US physicians were born abroad
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:05 am to ShortyRob
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:05 am to ShortyRob
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I personally tend to avoid Doctos with such names not because I dislike them or think they aren't competent but because I've had multiple experiences where I couldn't even fully communicate with them. Describing why I'd come to the doctor often felt about the same as talking to tech support on the phone to a dude named "Steve"(whose name was definitely NOT Steve)
I've had a couple of foreign doctors and they were much better at communicating than the engineering professors I had at LSU
I don't go to the doctor often though
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Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:05 am to ShortyRob
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Dear Lord. I'm not going to claim to recall, but please for the love of God tell me that Clinton didn't actually believe reducing supply would drive down costs!!
Nah. He’s making that up. Also, the Clinton administration was many moons ago, across a great ocean of other administrations, and has nothing to do with the current availability of American born physicians.
This post was edited on 12/6/18 at 8:06 am
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:06 am to NC_Tigah
The cost of a medical education in the US rises while the earnings of doctors decreases. Both are due to government interference in the free market. Government guaranteed student loans allow tuition to climb to ridiculous heights, and government interference in medicine (Medicare) lowers their pay.
Now foreign people have the same brain power but lower cost of education. Because the economies of their 3rd world native countries suck, the lower rewards of our doctors are heaven to them.
Now foreign people have the same brain power but lower cost of education. Because the economies of their 3rd world native countries suck, the lower rewards of our doctors are heaven to them.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:07 am to ShortyRob
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Dear Lord. I'm not going to claim to recall, but please for the love of God tell me that Clinton didn't actually believe reducing supply would drive down costs!!
Keep in mind who is telling you this: an insane person
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:09 am to ShortyRob
quote:100%.
please for the love of God tell me that Clinton didn't actually believe reducing supply would drive down costs!!
During the Clinton years, Medicare, which is the major residency funding source, was even used to pay residency programs to shut down training slots.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:10 am to Powerman
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I've had a couple of foreign doctors and they were much better at communicating than the engineering professors I had at LSU
Admittedly, the doctor who delivered my 10 year old was a female Indian(dot, not feather). And, we loved her. She was great.
But, she came recommended and yeah, I admit it. I asked the person who recommended her if I would be able to converse with her in English.
Yeah. I know that might be looked at bad, but, when you've spent 20 minutes trying to describe to a doctor how an injury happened and they still don't understand............it's a legit question.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:14 am to NC_Tigah
Residency is a racket, artificially limited, and because of salaries it ends up funneling all US dcotors in to specialization. Your general practitioners are born abroad because of shitty regulations on our health care industry and education system.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:18 am to Powerman
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Keep in mind who is telling you this: an insane person
I did do some Googling and filtered for the 1992-2000 period.
Reducing residency to solve the physician "glut"
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:19 am to teke184
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More proof that the Dems fail economics forever.
and apparently no republicans cared since clinton1, gop owned both houses of congress and president and nothing was improved. Gop likes the m.d.shortage just like it is. Gop has both houses now. Now. Crickets.
This post was edited on 12/6/18 at 8:21 am
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:23 am to burdhead
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we still won't go to non-american doctors (except these) but sometimes this philosophy is not in our own best interests....it is the safest philosophy,though
You guys can't be real people
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:23 am to NC_Tigah
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During the Clinton years,
newt republican.
House.
Funding.
Whose idea was it?
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:29 am to NC_Tigah
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Yes, it's getting bad
Talking about the poli board? I agree
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:30 am to burdhead
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we still won't go to non-american doctors (except these) but sometimes this philosophy is not in our own best interests....it is the safest philosophy,though
Explain increased safety please
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:40 am to Powerman
quote:Gotta tell ya.
Keep in mind who is telling you this: an insane person
The two links I've been able to find tend to support the "insane" person you speak of. Here's the other. Hell. There's a paragraph that explicitly states that too many physicians are considered to be "cost generators" that drive up expenses to the govt". PDF Link on the subject
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:50 am to TeLeFaWx
Foreign born and trained doctors must go through US residency in order to practice here.
You are using the term general practitioner wrong. A GP is some one who completed medical school and one year of post graduate training but did not become board certified-common 40 years ago but not anymore. Now what most people consider to be a “GP” is a board certified family medicine or internal medicine doctor.
You are correct in that residency spots for primary care are artificially limited. Many politicians incorrectly think building and starting new medical schools are the answer however unless these graduates can match and complete a residency then they never make it the workforce
You are using the term general practitioner wrong. A GP is some one who completed medical school and one year of post graduate training but did not become board certified-common 40 years ago but not anymore. Now what most people consider to be a “GP” is a board certified family medicine or internal medicine doctor.
You are correct in that residency spots for primary care are artificially limited. Many politicians incorrectly think building and starting new medical schools are the answer however unless these graduates can match and complete a residency then they never make it the workforce
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:58 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
I actively try to see Indian doctors when I can.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:11 am to Powerman
quote:Yep, Certifiable
Keep in mind who is telling you this: an insane person
quote:The NYTimes wrote an extensive piece on this at the time. We've discussed it here on several occasions in the past.
Slate
Yes, We Have No Physicians
By JODIE T. ALLEN
FEB 23, 1997
. . . the 41 teaching hospitals that have volunteered to participate in the Medicare Graduate Medical Education Demonstration Project approved this week by the federal Health Care Financing Administration. The project will pay some $400 million in cash to these schools. In return, they have agreed not to train between 20 percent and 25 percent of the medical residents they would otherwise have trained over the next six years. Hospitals in other states were quick to complain that they had not been offered the same opportunity for sacrifice to the cause of medical progress. But HCFA’s administrator, Bruce Vladeck, explained that the effort was necessarily limited in scope until the success of the strategy had been tested. This is, after all, a demonstration project.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:12 am to UPT
You like smelly arm pits or Slurpee coupons better?
Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:13 am to NC_Tigah
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Nearly 1 in 3 US physicians were born abroad
More of an indictment of public education
Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:13 am to NC_Tigah
If P'man had any decency, he'd at least come back to this thread and address the links I provided and you provided.
I had no dog in the hunt. I simply Googled. It would appear that there is at least some merit to the idea that Clinton pushed this policy and somehow, for reasons unknown, thought it would drive costs down!
I had no dog in the hunt. I simply Googled. It would appear that there is at least some merit to the idea that Clinton pushed this policy and somehow, for reasons unknown, thought it would drive costs down!
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