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US needs to seriously ban panhandling/begging in the streets and public areas

Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:05 pm
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:05 pm
It's a health hazard, dangerous, and a nuisance. Multiple times a week on the subway, either I have to listen to some dude begging me to swipe my card for him or have some beggar go between cars begging for money with some sob story. Not to mention all the people on the streets and sidewalks who harass commuters and tourists.

When I lived in BR, all the panhandlers on the interstate off ramps from I-10, especially on College and Lee going towards campus, especially that old dude in a wheelchair in front of that bank almost every day.

It's a nuisance because us hardworking people don't want to be bothered. Health hazard because these people will walk in between cars, some cars still moving, with a Dixie cup to ask for change. Dangerous because you have no idea what these people will do.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30966 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:06 pm to
It's really bad in the area I live and where I used to work. Dangerous and frustrating.
Posted by brian_wilson
Member since Oct 2016
3581 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:06 pm to
Your solution is for the federal gov't to ban panhandling?

Small gov't!

eta: it is pretty bad where I live to. I find it super annoying. the same guy asks me for change several times a week.

on that note, he actually disappeared for who knows why and I realized he disappeared. he is back. I saw him today, but he was far too fricked up to ask me for change.
This post was edited on 4/20/18 at 2:08 pm
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:07 pm to
Support.


Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134887 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:07 pm to
Or people could just stop giving them money
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32599 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:08 pm to
quote:

US needs to seriously ban panhandling/begging in the streets and public areas

Amen
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85167 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:09 pm to
If by "ban" you mean "make laws against doing it" then you're too late.
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
76590 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:10 pm to
They are probably all spying for the Great Khan, anyways.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79361 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

Or people could just stop giving them money


Let 'em die off?
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8020 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:13 pm to
It's getting ridiculous in Chicago. I see the same few guys on the same few corners every single day. No, I don't have money for to spare today. I didn't yesterday, I didn't the day before that, or the entire week before that, or the entire month before that, or the entire year before that.

However, this isn't a federal government issue. It's a municipal issue, and they should be doing shite about it, but they won't for whatever reason. It's not compassionate to let people panhandle, and it's a nuisance and public health hazard.
Posted by beachdude
FL
Member since Nov 2008
5664 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:14 pm to
You really can’t. Pappachristou v. City of Jacksonville (1972).
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

Your solution is for the federal gov't to ban panhandling?

Small gov't!


I'd rather each state government across the board do it. I know New York, California, and other lib havens won't though. They need them for votes.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112619 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:14 pm to
One of my friends is a barber in a low income neighborhood in Shreveport. For security he wears a pistol on his hip openly. He also has a mini-fridge where he keeps a couple of sammiches.

Periodically a panhandler walks in with a sob story and asks for a couple of dollars because he hasn't eaten for days. My friend says "Sure, buddy" and hands the guy two sammiches from the fridge.

They are always stunned and disappointed and just walk out without the sammiches. I guess they weren't really that hungry.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:15 pm to
Where would you like for them to go? Serious question. I know that conservatives don't actually think of solutions when it comes to people and problems but I am very curious to see what you have to say.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

You really can’t. Pappachristou v. City of Jacksonville (1972).


1. The case dealt with vagrancy, not panhandling. Search my old threads for my mass homeless plan to redistribute the homeless from the coasts out to the interior Western states.

2. That statute was struck down for being vague. A law that is now vague and is not ambiguous that does not violate the Constitution would be upheld.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74306 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:17 pm to
Remember that dude that was making like 250k in NYC panhandling and at the end of the day would jump in his Benz and drive home to Jersey

Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101671 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

Where would you like for them to go?


Maybe wherever they were 15 years ago or so, when there wasn't one on every single street corner?

Seriously, it used to be rare to see beggars. You'd see one every now and then, sure, but certainly not every traffic lighted street corner, and living by the hundreds in tents under elevated roadways. Now they are everywhere. What happened to cause this?
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112619 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

Where would you like for them to go?


To work. Like the rest of us. I see 'help wanted' signs all over.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35636 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:17 pm to
Tons of cities and towns ban it.

Where I live it's banned.

It's stupid though, they give these people tickets they can't pay...and being a vagrant they don't show up to court.

So long story short, you can't stop panhandling. It's a stupid cause to fight over and nobody is hurting anyone...if someone wants to help them they can.

Might as well ban tithes and offerings.
Posted by brian_wilson
Member since Oct 2016
3581 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

I'd rather each state government across the board do it. I know New York, California, and other lib havens won't though. They need them for votes.


if NY and California want to allow it, why should the federal gov't step in?

SMall gov't!

The city where I live banded asking for money at intersections it in downtown. All it did was move them out of downtown.

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