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re: US needs to seriously ban panhandling/begging in the streets and public areas
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:19 pm to Ebbandflow
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:19 pm to Ebbandflow
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Serious question. I know that conservatives don't actually think of solutions when it comes to people and problems but I am very curious to see what you have to say.
the conservatives here in SD had a tent city set up for them with medical showers food etc and then the lib morons nixed it and then released 8k felons to the streets as a bonus 
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Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:20 pm to Zach
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To work. Like the rest of us. I see 'help wanted' signs all over.
Most of them are mentally ill and completely torn apart by drugs. I know this type of realization doesn't occur to a lizard brain Republican moron like yourself but some people are just not exactly job material. We need a better Healthcare System and a better Mental Health Care system.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:21 pm to SDVTiger
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conservatives here in SD had a tent city set up for them with medical showers food etc and then the lib morons nixed it and then released 8k felons to the streets as a bonus
Please elaborate about this Tent City and show me some evidence please.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:21 pm to Ebbandflow
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Where would you like for them to go? Serious question. I know that conservatives don't actually think of solutions when it comes to people and problems but I am very curious to see what you have to say.
You must have one of the worst ratios of arrogance to cluelessness I've come ever across.
A good number of the panhandlers already have homes and shelters, for starters. In larger cities like Chicago and New York, they take the trains or other public trans to nearby tourist from the place they actually live or shelter to places with busy foot traffic and tourist areas. They are, in effect, professional panhandlers.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:21 pm to Ebbandflow
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We need a better Healthcare System and a better Mental Health Care system.
What were we doing right in this regard up until about 15 years ago?
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:21 pm to Ebbandflow
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Where would you like for them to go?
Somewhere that is not here would be preferable.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:22 pm to Parmen
Last year Houston City Council passed anti-encampment and anti-panhandling ordinances. Anyone who impedes the use of a Houston roadway, or blocks a sidewalk or building entrance can be charged with a misdemeanor. Individuals who need shelter are being taken to such places.
In addition, the city has plans to house 500 chronically homeless people and to construct alternative, professionally staffed "low-level" shelters under highway overpasses or on private property. These outdoor spaces are intended to help accommodate people who are unable or unwilling to go to an indoor shelter. It appears to be helping.
FYI homeless population in Harris County was roughly 3,600 in 2011 (according to the Coalition for the Homeless) and is now down 57 percent.
This is a local government issue, not a federal one.
In addition, the city has plans to house 500 chronically homeless people and to construct alternative, professionally staffed "low-level" shelters under highway overpasses or on private property. These outdoor spaces are intended to help accommodate people who are unable or unwilling to go to an indoor shelter. It appears to be helping.
FYI homeless population in Harris County was roughly 3,600 in 2011 (according to the Coalition for the Homeless) and is now down 57 percent.
This is a local government issue, not a federal one.
This post was edited on 4/20/18 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:22 pm to Parmen
It's absolutely egregious in NYC right now. Long gone are the Giuliani days.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:23 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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They are, in effect, professional panhandlers.
Typical, conservatives against small business and entrepreneurship.
This post was edited on 4/20/18 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:23 pm to Ebbandflow
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Most of them are mentally ill and completely torn apart by drugs. I know this type of realization doesn't occur to a lizard brain Republican moron like yourself but some people are just not exactly job material. We need a better Healthcare System and a better Mental Health Care system.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:24 pm to Parmen
Local level jurisdiction. We don’t need the feds worrying about panhandling.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:24 pm to Parmen
I'm only perturbed when they start up with their bullshite stories. You want my money AND you are going to insult my intelligence with your blatant lies? frick off, kindly.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:24 pm to idlewatcher
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Let 'em die off?
Yep.
Stray cats don't go to places where there isn't any food. These bums are the same way.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:26 pm to Parmen
Wear gloves and hand them a few dollars coated in ghost pepper juice. Problem solved.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:28 pm to brian_wilson
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They are, in effect, professional panhandlers.
Typical, conservatives against small business and entrepreneurship.
Hey, I am all about the working man getting his, but the externalities these folks are having are incredible. I live right next to a major train station and a high-end shopping district with a lot of foot traffic. The panhandlers are fricking everywhere around here, and it's hurting both the businesses and general quality of life. People don't want to deal with that shite every twenty steps.
I get that many are mentally ill and addicts, but many are not. This is their job. Put the mentally ill and addicts in shelters and get them help, and say frick off to the rest of them. Eliminate the economic incentive for them to do it.
And a place like Chicago only hits peak capacity in its shelters a few months a year. There is plenty of space for them already.
This post was edited on 4/20/18 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:28 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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What were we doing right in this regard up until about 15 years ago?
Having less people. We still had the same mental health deficiency due to years of Republican stonewalling anything that might take muh tax dollars.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:29 pm to Parmen
48 hour holding cell. Most of them are on drugs. Make em detox cold turkey as punishment.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:30 pm to Ebbandflow
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Most of them are mentally ill and completely torn apart by drugs.
That may have been true years ago, but now most of the people panhandling are able body people of sound mind and health. There's an entire subculture of these people.
This post was edited on 4/20/18 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:30 pm to Ebbandflow
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Having less people.
My city is much less populated, with a whole lot more of these people everywhere.
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We still had the same mental health deficiency due to years of Republican stonewalling anything that might take muh tax dollars.
Ah, of course.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:31 pm to Parmen
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I'm only perturbed when they start up with their bull shite stories. You want my money AND you are going to insult my intelligence with your blatant lies? frick off, kindly.
I once had this cracked out black dude yelling "frick white people" on the bus. He sat behind me and spit on my neck. Only when I stood up at my stop did he look up at me with those bullshite puppy dog eyes and ask me for a dollar. I told him to go frick himself and bailed.
Come to think of it I haven't given anything to beggars since then.
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