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re: US needs to seriously ban panhandling/begging in the streets and public areas

Posted on 4/20/18 at 5:35 pm to
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 5:35 pm to
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My city is much less populated, with a whole lot more of these people everywhere.


Why do you think that is? Could it be possible that the widening gap between rich and poor might be creating some of these problems?
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 5:36 pm to
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You must have one of the worst ratios of arrogance to cluelessness I've come ever across.


Ok....

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A good number of the panhandlers already have homes and shelters, for starters. In larger cities like Chicago and New York, they take the trains or other public trans to nearby tourist from the place they actually live or shelter to places with busy foot traffic and tourist areas. They are, in effect, professional panhandlers.


Now how would you know that? You sound very cocksure without any legitimate information but you're accusing me of the same. I think you're full of shite and you have nothing to back that up.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 5:37 pm to
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That may have been true years ago, but now most of the people panhandling are able body people of sound mind and health. There's an entire subculture of these people.


I live in Austin Texas and I don't see a single person panhandling that doesn't look like they're completely homeless. I don't know what you're basing this off of but I'm guessing that you're just making it up
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
37355 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 5:44 pm to
Round them up and give them one-way tickets to Portland or San Fran
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
7995 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 6:13 pm to
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A good number of the panhandlers already have homes and shelters, for starters. In larger cities like Chicago and New York, they take the trains or other public trans to nearby tourist from the place they actually live or shelter to places with busy foot traffic and tourist areas. They are, in effect, professional panhandlers.


Now how would you know that? You sound very cocksure without any legitimate information but you're accusing me of the same. I think you're full of shite and you have nothing to back that up.


A simple Google search on professional panhandlers would have yielded you results, bucko.

Here

Here

Here

Or go and actually talk to people who work with the homeless instead of bloviating about it on the internet. They'll straight up tell you that most regular panhandlers aren't homeless. They are some combination of drug addicts and straight up professionals.
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 6:31 pm to
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w this type of realization doesn't occur to a lizard brain Republican moron like yourself but some people are just not exactly job material. We need a better Healthcare System and a better Mental Health Care system.



Good Christians would rather just round them up and shot them. What you are proposing is way to civilized for the GOP. They all dream of secession and war with all sorts of folks and everyone armed to the teeth......health care? Sick people can go get fricked if they ain’t got the money to get well......the hate that they have for themselves is manifested in the appearance of hate for others.....you really have to feel badly for them going through life, short as it is and as wonderful as it is with hate and anger
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 6:33 pm to
If a person is broke and homeless do we really want to live in a society where they are thrown in jail?
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
7995 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 6:36 pm to
Well, first of all, I bet many Republicans know the difference between “too” and “to”.

Second, we spend more public healthcare dollars per capita than all but two countries in the world (Norway and Switzerland), and we’re barely behind those two. Yes, public.

Generosity from public largesse is not our problem in healthcare.
Posted by Pussykat
South Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
3889 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 7:37 pm to
Some of they are getting too aggressive, I don’t want them touching me , my car, my groceries or anything just take no for an answer and go away.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24734 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 8:01 pm to
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Where would you like for them to go? Serious question


To the homeless shelters. If you make them go to the shelter, they will not hang around. In Portland, these people pitch tents in the street. Nice tents. If you make them go into the shelters, they usually won't hang around, because they don't allow booze and drugs in the shelter.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24734 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 8:09 pm to
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Round them up and give them one-way tickets to Portland or San Fran


frick that, we already have more than our share. In the next year or two, I expect Portland to start doing something about the problem. Businesses are starting to leave downtown. Pressure is building.

Progressives are proposing solutions such as building tiny homes for these people to live in and placing them in residential neighborhoods. Stupid, but at least they recognize the need to get them off the streets.

There's a possibility we may get a Republican governor this year...
Posted by Tall Tiger
Dixie
Member since Sep 2007
3197 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 8:16 pm to
Let's give healthy able bodied people who consciously decide not to work free stuff!
This post was edited on 4/23/18 at 8:38 pm
Posted by TexasTiger80
Texas
Member since Apr 2018
2396 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 8:21 pm to
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Or people could just stop giving them money


This. There are beggers everywhere by where I live. If people stopped giving them money, they would leave.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22237 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 8:22 pm to
The expectations of the panhandler that keeps him motivated (and fosters a mindset of entitlement) originated in Washington, D.C. And if you think the relatively recent spike in panhandlers and the 8 Obama years are unrelated, then you're just naive, stupid, or living under a rock.
Posted by TexasTiger80
Texas
Member since Apr 2018
2396 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 8:25 pm to
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Good Christians would rather just round them up and shot them. What you are proposing is way to civilized for the GOP. They all dream of secession and war with all sorts of folks and everyone armed to the teeth......health care? Sick people can go get fricked if they ain’t got the money to get well......the hate that they have for themselves is manifested in the appearance of hate for others.....you really have to feel badly for them going through life, short as it is and as wonderful as it is with hate and anger


Melt libtard...
Posted by WillieNelsonsDoobie
Bogata
Member since May 2014
1427 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 8:29 pm to
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eta: it is pretty bad where I live to. I find it super annoying. the same guy asks me for change several times a week. on that note, he actually disappeared for who knows why and I realized he disappeared. he is back. I saw him today, but he was far too fricked up to ask me for change.


I agree it’s annoying, I never carry cash though. But if someone is panhandling outside or close to a restaurant, I’ll ask them if they want something to eat. I don’t mind buying a hungry person a meal..I have problem giving them a fiver if they’re lying.
Posted by TupeloTiger
Tupelo,Ms.[via Bastrop,La.]
Member since Jul 2004
4340 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 8:33 pm to
There are several who panhandle near our store,they regularly come into our store with a cup full of change to get a cashier to count the money. It's a pain in the neck. They always buy beer and cigarettes. They never buy food. They stink,are dirty,rude, and are scumb.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35444 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 8:35 pm to
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Correct, if it wasn't profitable to be out there, they wouldn't be out there.


I don't know how they are feeding their dogs.

Everyone always seems to have a dog. And constantly smoking.

Cigarettes are damn expensive.
Posted by Chuker
St George, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
7544 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 8:45 pm to
Little Rock banned panhandling at intersections but the ACLU sued won saying it was a right. So now LR has its panhandlers back.
Posted by Bunsbert Montcroff
Phoenix AZ / Boise ID
Member since Jan 2008
5493 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 8:46 pm to
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We shouldn't arresting them or ticketing them, but I wouldn't mind a policy in which the police immediately take them and drive them to a shelter.

that sounds quite enlightened. here, the police just shuttle them between municipalities. the phoenix pd will deliver them to glendale, glendale pd will give them bus tickets to phoenix or tempe. it's a taxi service for homeless people.

i spend a bit of time in salt lake city for work, and noticed repurposed parking meters that you could donate spare change to to combat homelessness and panhandling. slc has decent homeless shelters so panhandlers on the street are a sure bet to be working you. you can always beg them off by saying you'd donated to the parking meters.
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