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re: US needs to seriously ban panhandling/begging in the streets and public areas
Posted on 4/21/18 at 8:53 am to GeauxOCDP
Posted on 4/21/18 at 8:53 am to GeauxOCDP
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I'm a Republican and always have been, I just refuse to let Fox News decide my thought process.
Oh horse shite.
If you are a "Republican" you are one of thos ecliche-ridden Kasich supporting aholes.
No actual Republican whines about Fox News or "tax cuts for the rich"
As for Panhandling, I want a section 8 style program to get them into these gentrified neighborhoods that rich white leftists fill. Grab yourselves some fricking diversity bitches
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Posted on 4/21/18 at 8:59 am to AbuTheMonkey
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simple Google search on professional panhandlers would have yielded you results, bucko.
So two stories and a broken link. Must be rampant in every city.
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Or go and actually talk to people who work with the homeless instead of bloviating about it on the internet
I HAVE worked with homeless people. You're the one that's bloviating on the internet considering the fact that you actually have no real life context.
I live in Austin Texas and we have a huge homeless population. You can see them outside of the arc every morning and various spots in town and they are definitely homeless. Now is there a panhandler every now and again that isn't homeless? Sure but is it some high percentage or some rampant amount? Know the answer to that is obviously no and anyone who thinks that is obviously trying to shed empathy to make it easier for themselves or just an idiot.
Posted on 4/21/18 at 9:00 am to gthog61
These people are so inherently dishonest, "Republican", lol.
Posted on 4/21/18 at 9:00 am to Parmen
I have no problem with panhandlers. If people wouldn't give to them, they wouldn't be out there.
Posted on 4/21/18 at 9:01 am to CarrolltonTiger
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The personal behavior and employment qualifications of the homeless probably has a lot more to do with their homelessness .
Mental health probably the biggest reason.
Posted on 4/21/18 at 9:03 am to Ebbandflow
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Mental health probably the biggest reason.
Myth. Drug addiction is a bigger cause, but mental illness doesn't account for a third of them.
This post was edited on 4/21/18 at 9:04 am
Posted on 4/21/18 at 9:06 am to GeauxOCDP
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I'll never understand the ignorance of hating people who are down on their luck.
The problem is the more programs you have for homeless, the more homeless you will have.
NYC has (or did have) a program to get them out of the city by bus or even airplane.
Posted on 4/21/18 at 9:18 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Myth. Drug addiction is a bigger cause, but mental illness doesn't account for a third of them.
Link? Also, dont you think that level if drug addiction is indicative of poor mental health?
This post was edited on 4/21/18 at 9:19 am
Posted on 4/21/18 at 9:24 am to Ebbandflow
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Link? Also, dont you think that level if drug addiction is indicative of poor mental health?
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•According to the Office of National Drug Control Policy, approximately 30 percent of people experiencing chronic homelessness have a serious mental illness,
Addiction is a temporary and voluntary mental illness that can be fixed.
Most of our local homeless are addicts or drunks. There's a shite load of resources but behavioral issues keep them from long term housing.
Posted on 4/21/18 at 9:37 am to Parmen
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Search my old threads for my mass homeless plan to redistribute the homeless from the coasts out to the interior Western states.
frick that. We dont want those worthless bastards.
Posted on 4/21/18 at 9:49 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Most of our local homeless are addicts or drunks. There's a shite load of resources but behavioral issues keep them from long term housing.
Ok. I see where youre coming from. I agree but do note that addiction is considered a mental illness:
Addiction is a disease of the brain.
Either way, these people comprise the homeless which comprises the vast majority of people panhandling. The op is mostly irrelevant.
This post was edited on 4/21/18 at 9:51 am
Posted on 4/21/18 at 9:53 am to Ebbandflow
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The op is mostly irrelevant.
Why?
Are we supposed to just say, "Welp, they're insane. I guess that's that..." ?
This post was edited on 4/21/18 at 9:55 am
Posted on 4/21/18 at 9:54 am to messyjesse
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I once had this cracked out black dude yelling "frick white people" on the bus. He sat behind me and spit on my neck. Only when I stood up at my stop did he look up at me with those bullshite puppy dog eyes and ask me for a dollar. I told him to go frick himself and bailed.
Come to think of it I haven't given anything to beggars since then.
I was 20 years old and living in Norfolk. I was at a WaWa station getting gas when some guy comes up and gives me a sob story about how he's broke but has to get to Richmond and needs gas money. I put $10 in the guy's car (plenty enough to make the 60 mile trip from Norfolk to Richmond). After I put $10 in his car, I watched him go give the exact same sob story to the next person who walked in the store and knew I had been duped.
I made a decision that day to never give money to a beggar again, and 8 years later, I haven't.
Posted on 4/21/18 at 10:07 am to Ebbandflow
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Addiction is a disease of the brain.
Addiction is a choice. I know there are people who think that addiction is a disease, but you aren't going to buy shots of cancer at the bar.
Posted on 4/21/18 at 10:11 am to Parmen
I just randomly drop change and act like i dont notice. Usually keeps them occupied
Posted on 4/21/18 at 10:32 am to Jax-Tiger
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Why?
Are we supposed to just say, "Welp, they're insane. I guess that's that..." ?
WE NEED BETTER MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT. It's funny how much you guys are for it when you think your guns might get taken away but for homeless people.... not exactly a priority.
Posted on 4/21/18 at 10:33 am to VADawg
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know there are people who think that addiction is a disease, but you aren't going to buy shots of cancer at the bar.
Ignorance is a shipment that never arrives
Posted on 4/21/18 at 10:49 am to Ebbandflow
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Ignorance is a shipment that never arrives
This is something that hits a little close to home. I've seen two family members destroy their lives because they couldn't put the needle down. They don't have a disease and no one ever forced them stick a needle in their arm. Addiction is voluntary. Real diseases are not.
Posted on 4/21/18 at 10:56 am to Ebbandflow
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WE NEED BETTER MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT. It's funny how much you guys are for it when you think your guns might get taken away but for homeless people.... not exactly a priority.
The op said that we need to do something about panhandlers because it's unsafe and annoying. You just said the op was irrelevant because panhandlers are insane. How does the mental health issue make the op irrelevant? His question is, "What do we do about it?". You say it's irrelevant and spout off about guns as if answering a question I didn't ask.
This post was edited on 4/21/18 at 10:57 am
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