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Schlitterbahn co-owner to face murder charge in water slide death
Posted on 4/4/18 at 8:41 am
Posted on 4/4/18 at 8:41 am
Schlitterbahn co-owner on way to Kansas to face murder charge in water slide death
SUPPLEMENTAL READING
late-March thread on here, manslaughter charges for a different person:
O-T thread on Tyler Austin Miles (Operations Director) - Schlitterbahn employee charged in KC boys death
Schlitterbahn's response (Q&A)
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By Tony Rizzo And Max Londberg
April 03, 2018 03:53 PM
Schlitterbahn co-owner Jeff Henry is expected to be returned Tuesday night from Texas where he has been jailed on murder charges filed in Wyandotte County.
Henry has been jailed in Texas since March 26 when he was indicted in the 2016 death of 10-year-old Caleb Schwab on the Verruckt water slide.
He waived extradition and on Tuesday afternoon was transferred from the county jail in Brownsville, Texas, to Kansas officials.
His attorney, Carl Cornwell, said he is expected to be booked into the Wyandotte County Jail Tuesday night.
An initial court hearing for Henry is scheduled for Thursday in Wyandotte County District Court.
Also charged in Caleb's death are Verruckt designer John Schooley and the director of operations for Schlitterbahn park, Tyler Miles. Schooley has been charged with second-degree murder.
Miles faces involuntary manslaughter, aggravated battery and aggravated endangerment of a child charges.
Also charged are the Schlitterbahn corporation in Kansas and Henry & Son's Construction Co., a contractor controlled by Henry.
The company denies the allegations in the indictment. It said company employees have not withheld evidence and maintains that the park prioritizes the safety of its guests.
"We will be fighting these charges aggressively," said Schlitterbahn spokeswoman Winter Prosapio in a statement. "The incident that happened that day was a terrible and tragic accident. We mourn the loss of Caleb and are devastated for his family. We reiterate that Tyler, Jeff and John are innocent and that we run a safe operation – our 40 years of entertaining millions of people speaks to that. We are confident that their innocence will be proven in court where we know the facts will show this was an accident."
The company has published a rebuttal to the indictment's central claims on its news page.
SUPPLEMENTAL READING
late-March thread on here, manslaughter charges for a different person:
O-T thread on Tyler Austin Miles (Operations Director) - Schlitterbahn employee charged in KC boys death
Schlitterbahn's response (Q&A)
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Posted on 4/4/18 at 8:43 am to JPinLondon
Damn. Did he push the kid down the slide or something?
Posted on 4/4/18 at 8:45 am to JPinLondon
Seems like an over reach.
Wouldn't they have to prove he intentionally killed the kid for it to be murder?
Wouldn't they have to prove he intentionally killed the kid for it to be murder?
Posted on 4/4/18 at 8:47 am to JPinLondon
So stupid. What happened to that kid is terrible, but I think it's fairly obvious the owner didnt get into cahoots with the designer and operator of the slide and say "hey let's design, build, and operate a slide with the intent to kill one kid. We'll have thousands of people go down it, bit we want to kill one kid."
Posted on 4/4/18 at 8:49 am to JPinLondon
John Henry seems like an a-hole but this seems like a big overreaction by Missouri since it was a politicians kid. Are the parents not taking some responsibility in this? I as a parent could look at that ride and see it was dangerous for little kids. Hence I wouldn’t have let my kid ride it.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 8:49 am to JPinLondon
Seems like an inappropriate charge.
The company should be held financially liable and have to pay punitive damages out the arse if they're at fault but I don't see how they could make a murder charge stick.
The company should be held financially liable and have to pay punitive damages out the arse if they're at fault but I don't see how they could make a murder charge stick.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 8:49 am to JPinLondon
This is all an overzealous prosecutor that's probably friends with the kid's politician dad. Once it get's to an actual Judge/Jury, these charges will be dismissed or significantly reduced.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 8:49 am to JPinLondon
wow.
I'm almost more concerned that the person who designed the ride is facing second-degree murder charges. I don't understand what culpability he has in any of that.
Should script writers and directors be charged with the same crime as well when someone commits a crime inspired by a movie they wrote?
I'm almost more concerned that the person who designed the ride is facing second-degree murder charges. I don't understand what culpability he has in any of that.
Should script writers and directors be charged with the same crime as well when someone commits a crime inspired by a movie they wrote?
Posted on 4/4/18 at 8:52 am to JPinLondon
If this is the case then what about the people who built the bridge in Florida which collapsed killing people ?
Should the Engineer be charged with murder ?
Should the Engineer be charged with murder ?
Posted on 4/4/18 at 8:52 am to JPinLondon
Holy shite. I've been to Schlitterbahn like 9 times.
This post was edited on 4/4/18 at 8:55 am
Posted on 4/4/18 at 8:55 am to JPinLondon
How about charging the people who approved this ride to be open? Regardless of it being too dependent on the appropriate weight for the sled to stay on the track, AND depending on probably high schoolers on a summer job they probably didn't want to enforce said weight requirement, how about the idiotic notion of having metal beams to support the safety net?
Posted on 4/4/18 at 9:00 am to JPinLondon
Doesn't murder require malice? This seems like an extreme overcharge that will lead to no conviction.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 9:01 am to JPinLondon
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This post was edited on 2/10/19 at 11:46 pm
Posted on 4/4/18 at 9:04 am to JPinLondon
Now its just a money grab for the family
Posted on 4/4/18 at 10:14 am to JPinLondon
As discussed in the prior thread, this is only happening because it's a legislator's kid. Anyone who doesn't believe that is not being honest.
Kansas seems to have a relatively low threshold for what is considered murder / manslaughter.
I find it interesting that the leaders at Wells Fargo, after fraud and theft in the hundreds of millions of dollars from tons of people, won't face any charges, but these guys do.
The prosecutors better have damn high proof of fraud and negligence. I think this is one of those situations where if the defendants are found not guilty, the prosecutor should be fired and the defendants allowed to sue for damages. That's the only way to tamp down overzealous prosecutions.
Kansas seems to have a relatively low threshold for what is considered murder / manslaughter.
I find it interesting that the leaders at Wells Fargo, after fraud and theft in the hundreds of millions of dollars from tons of people, won't face any charges, but these guys do.
The prosecutors better have damn high proof of fraud and negligence. I think this is one of those situations where if the defendants are found not guilty, the prosecutor should be fired and the defendants allowed to sue for damages. That's the only way to tamp down overzealous prosecutions.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 10:16 am to JPinLondon
This is rediculous.
However anyone else wondering wtf the coowner of anythiing is doing in fricking brownsville texas?
However anyone else wondering wtf the coowner of anythiing is doing in fricking brownsville texas?
Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:28 am to JPinLondon
I already have reasonable doubt just based on the charges as applied to these facts.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:41 am to JPinLondon
The father was a champion for deregulation of safety/OSHA type stuff in the KS legislature if I recall correctly.
It's a harsh charge, probably too harsh, but these amusement park owners need to be held accountable for unsafe designs. Not something you let the "market" take care of or have patrons sign their life away upon entering the park.
It's a harsh charge, probably too harsh, but these amusement park owners need to be held accountable for unsafe designs. Not something you let the "market" take care of or have patrons sign their life away upon entering the park.
This post was edited on 4/4/18 at 11:45 am
Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:41 am to JPinLondon
Proves that if you have connections you can make anything happen.
Sorry your son died but you're kind of a chode.
No jury in their right mind will convict.
Sorry your son died but you're kind of a chode.
No jury in their right mind will convict.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:49 am to JPinLondon
This is an interesting case..
Wouldn't this be similar to.. let's say a bridge collapsing? If a bridge collapses and someone or multiple people are killed, can the owner of the engineering company and the civil engineers who designed it be charged with murder?
I don't know if this situation addresses it, but what if there was a mistake on the contractor's end, that isn't as obvious?
Don't get me wrong, it is a tragedy that someone lost their life, but it's not like the owner's goal was to design a slide that would kill someone. Does Schlitterbahn guarantee it's customers their slides are 100% safe?
Wouldn't this be similar to.. let's say a bridge collapsing? If a bridge collapses and someone or multiple people are killed, can the owner of the engineering company and the civil engineers who designed it be charged with murder?
I don't know if this situation addresses it, but what if there was a mistake on the contractor's end, that isn't as obvious?
Don't get me wrong, it is a tragedy that someone lost their life, but it's not like the owner's goal was to design a slide that would kill someone. Does Schlitterbahn guarantee it's customers their slides are 100% safe?
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