re: What is acceptable to you in 2018 (football)?

When Saban made an SECCG appearance in year 2 at LSU and in year 2 at Alabama, he did not have to coach against the best HC in college football history who was at the winningest SEC football program. Saban had it easier than Miles did or than O does.

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I can accept 3 losses IF the passing attack develops this year and is good by the end of the year.

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No you won't and you'll find a way to blame not only Orgeron but Joe Alleva, FKing Alexander and Derek Ponamsky as well...not to mention Steve Ensminger

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Toughest opening game since Oregon in 11.

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Preseason rank? Not very good forecaster.
2016 Wiscy finished 8, Miami tbd.

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What is acceptable to you in 2018 (football)?

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F) forget the record for the moment;
I want a strong, well-coached game that is at least competitive with Miami, where the QB is sharp, decisive and accurate, the WRs get open and make plays, the running game is effective, the o-line is solid provides consistent protection. The defense is in position, does not get pushed around, doesn't let people run open. The kicking game is a FG lock within 50 yds and results in touchbacks, and doesn't shank punts or allow huge runbacks.
There should never be a question whether LSU should be on the same field as Miami, talent-wise. Ideally, there should be a question whether Miami should be on the field with LSU.

And then, I want the team to look a little better each game.

As I said, don't even discuss W-L record at this point. The Auburn game last year was a great comeback, but was huge example of up&down play. Tennessee also, for half the game LSU looked like crap. I WANT a team that plays solid and pretty mistake-free from start to finish, and if they lose, the other team earns it.

Get that from a team with a soph (or redshirt freshman) QB, let the chips fall where they may, and then enter the next season TRULY thinking LSU is back at the top level of football.

I'd say (A) but a more realistic expectation is probably (B) 3 losses. Decision totally based upon strength of schedule and new qb. If coaches get passing game to be top three in SEC, we only lose 2 max regular season games. Auburn, Florida and Miami are winnable games. Good probability we win against ole miss, arky and aTm. Bama and Georgia are questionable.

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So now we're about being realistic?

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I've always been realistic. Others here are not.

Expectations should always be win every game. Realistically, that seldom happens. This is not hard to comprehend or anything new for that matter. If Bama keeps winning the SECW and LSU does not, he will also be fired. This is quite simple to figure out.

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Anything below A) equals “we should have kept Les Miles.”

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Miles' last four years at LSU:

2013: 10-3
2014: 8-5
2015: 9-3
2016: 2-2

That comes out to a winning percentage of 69% (nice!), but if you take out 2013, it goes down to 65%.

Orgeron's first two years:

2016: 6-2
2017: 9-4

That's a winning percentage of 71%. If he finishes 2018 with 3 or fewer losses, it will be an improvement over Miles' recent years.

This year will tell us a lot about the direction of the program.

Because it is another shitty topic full of mouth breathers spouting anti-LSU bs. You tards are relentless and deserve to mushroom stamped at every chance possible.

Just to piss you off

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10 wins - preferably with a bowl win, but that's not a hard requirement.

10 wins is progress. 9 wins means we fired Les to get O at the same level of performance (since 2011, of course).

(I'm tough, but I'm fair.)