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If you're going to fire a man over a single allegation...

Posted on 11/29/17 at 9:11 am
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/29/17 at 9:11 am
And drag his name through the mud on NATIONAL TELEVISION, you need to also make public the evidence that was so damning that you felt such an action was justified. I don't need names, but I need to know that you have pictures, audio, SOMETHING that justifies such rash action.

Lauer' political leanings are irrelevant in this case. Everyone should be deeply troubled by this hysteria sweeping the country where it is now laudable to literally call someone a rapist on a national news broadcast the day after a single allegation by a single individual is made.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/29/17 at 9:12 am to
Agreed but seeing their politically motivated attacks backfire on them is outstanding, bigly.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54241 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 9:13 am to
Maybe Lauer doesn't want the evidence exposed. That's my guess.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 9:13 am to
I agree.

Secondarily.

If he was fired based on really solid evidence, shouldn't this be on a REAL court and not just the public opinion court?
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 11/29/17 at 9:13 am to
quote:

And drag his name through the mud on NATIONAL TELEVISION, you need to also make public the evidence that was so damning that you felt such an action was justified. I don't need names, but I need to know that you have pictures, audio, SOMETHING that justifies such rash action.
I mean it’s a private company so they can do what they want.

It’s a bit hypocritical of them to drag everyone else’s name through the mud with unfounded accusations while at the same time keeping there’s a secret though.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36389 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 9:14 am to
Supposedly Vanity Fair and NYT were working on stories for the last two months before this story broke.

But this is definitely a moral panic.

Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18099 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 9:14 am to
Think about this for a minute....Al Franken is still employed DESPITE pictures. The Dems will defend each other at all costs.

NBC is one of the biggest Dem shills out there. If they dismissed the guy there is something seriously bad there.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29282 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 9:14 am to
I'd rather leave it up to the individual if they want to go public with it or not. If they refute the accusations then yeah make it public, but if they say I fricked up but rather not have the gory details blasted everywhere then I think it better just to respect that.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 9:14 am to
quote:

Lauer' political leanings are irrelevant in this case. Everyone should be deeply troubled by this hysteria sweeping the country where it is now laudable to literally call someone a rapist on a national news broadcast the day after a single allegation by a single individual is made.


Not troubled at all. I’m a huge fan of people being held to the standards they want for everyone else. Democrats are learning a lesson. Maybe now they’ll want to rethink some things

Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 11/29/17 at 9:18 am to
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If he was fired based on really solid evidence, shouldn't this be on a REAL court and not just the public opinion court?


Isn't it weird how so few of these men who've been accused have been arrested and put on trial or otherwise taken to court? One would think that these accusers would want them off the streets.

Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46590 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 9:18 am to
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I mean it’s a private company so they can do what they want.


Absolutely

That doesn't make their actions any less troubling though.
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27250 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 9:18 am to
quote:

Roger Klarvin


They don't have to tell you jack shite. I'm sure they were confident he had done this or he never would've been fired.
This is not politics where the President or a preacher from Alabama can be elected after committing and/or bragging about sexual assault.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
51886 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 9:20 am to
quote:

And drag his name through the mud on NATIONAL TELEVISION, you need to also make public the evidence that was so damning that you felt such an action was justified. I don't need names, but I need to know that you have pictures, audio, SOMETHING that justifies such rash action.

Lauer' political leanings are irrelevant in this case. Everyone should be deeply troubled by this hysteria sweeping the country where it is now laudable to literally call someone a rapist on a national news broadcast the day after a single allegation by a single individual is made.


I want to send a message to every survivor of sexual assault: Don’t let anyone silence your voice. You have the right to be heard. You have the right to be believed, and we’re with you.

-HRC


This philosophy of "everyone is a victim" is coming back to bite them in the arse.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
28327 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 9:20 am to
I guess Lauer can always sue them,if it's bullshite.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46590 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 9:21 am to
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They don't have to tell you jack shite.


Never said they did, I said they should feel obligated to do so.

If there is damning evidence, expose Lauer for what he is. Remove all doubt. They've already called him a rapist, if it isn't true nothing else they could reveal would be any more damning in a future civil case. If it is true it wouldn't matter.

quote:

I'm sure they were confident he had done this or he never would've been fired.


In this current climate I have no reason to believe that
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20557 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 9:22 am to
He in trouble. A lot.
This post was edited on 11/29/17 at 9:24 am
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20557 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 9:22 am to
quote:

And drag his name through the mud on NATIONAL TELEVISION, you need to also make public the evidence that was so damning that you felt such an action was justified. I don't need names, but I need to know that you have pictures, audio, SOMETHING that justifies such rash action.


There is a barrage of evidence coming. Story broke that Lauer has been under investigation for some time outside of NBC. NBC was given the heads up and they acted immediately. Other media is about to release story/investigation on Lauer.

NBC took the "correct" action because they had zero choice. NBC has known about the allegations and others for some time.

Not sure if the rape in Rio has been confirmed but think this is what prompted the other investigations into him.
This post was edited on 11/29/17 at 9:23 am
Posted by BobABooey
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2004
14336 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 9:22 am to
Ask yourself this: Did Lauer report or discuss any unsubstantiated allegations against other public figures on the air?
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34968 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 9:23 am to
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and/or bragging about sexual assault.
this line makes me laugh every single time. It’s such nonsense
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20166 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 9:24 am to
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Think about this for a minute....Al Franken is still employed DESPITE pictures. The Dems will defend each other at all costs.


An elected official isn’t merely “employed”. I don’t know if Franken’s actions should result in his removal or not, but removing an elected Senator is a different type of thing than firing an employee from a company whose business is directly related to public opinion (viewership).

I loathe Franken, fwiw.
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