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Posted on 3/26/17 at 7:44 pm to
Posted by MonroeTigerstripes
Member since Jul 2016
536 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 7:44 pm to
People may think that this response is crazy but hire a sleep consultant. I do not have a baby yet (have one on the way) but I have several friends who have babies 0-6 m.o. and I know two that have hired sleep consultants recently after trying everything and feeling absolutely hopeless. One friend in particular was up every 30-45 minutes with a screaming baby. She and her husband tried absolutely every bit of advice available and nothing worked until they hired the consultant. The baby now sleeps 10-12 hours (~5 months old) and the husband (who was a firm skeptic and non-believer) says it is the best $350 they've ever spent.

Good luck - I'm scared to death to be in your situation and I'd imagine I'd try just about anything. My daughter is due in 3 months
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36905 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 7:48 pm to
What is your schedule with him?

Mine is 11 months and has slept through the night since very early on. Bedtime is about 8 after his bath and he rarely wakes up before 8 the next morning. Doesn't sleep during the day at all though.

Posted by reggierayreb
Germantown
Member since Nov 2012
17003 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 7:48 pm to
My son didn't sleep through the night til he was 9 months old ... Kept him on a strict feeding and nap schedule ... Didn't matter .. He wanted to be next to mom all the time at night ... His older sister slept like a rock at 3 months... Lots of good advice in this thread... I'd start with a later bed time and a sleep suit .. Good luck.. It gets better.

Posted by BogeyGolf
Minot
Member since Nov 2016
974 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 7:49 pm to
Let'm cry it out method worked for our two. It's not fun but after 3-4 days they get the idea.
Posted by CorkSoaker
Member since Oct 2008
9819 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 7:53 pm to
The Rock and play is amazing. Don't be embarrassed or in a hurry to get them out of it, especially if they have stomach issues. Ours was 9 months before she went to a crib and it was only because she was huge and and was practically busting out of the rock and play.

Talk to your pediatrician more about the stomach issues. I'm all for baby wise methods, but you don't want to do the cry it out thing if there is a medical reason for the crying.

Could the baby have an ear infection or anything?

In the mean time, try asking for help from family members as you are probably sleep deprived.
Posted by SuwMwf
Member since Jul 2012
952 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 7:54 pm to
Does your baby have colic or reflux? We had the same issue at about the same time. Switched to soy and we used a local specialty pharmacy for their homeopathic colic medicine. Dupois colic medicine saved our sanity. Do NOT give without asking pediatrician!! They deliver now, but we used to drive 45 mins to St. Martinville to get it and we only used it before the last bottle of the day.

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Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36905 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 7:54 pm to
How do you hold him when rocking him? I lay him on his back for the most part and seem to have a lot less trouble than holding him against my chest.

Lately he barely keeps his eyes open long enough to finish his bottle.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72396 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 7:54 pm to
quote:

He naps just fine during the day
Dont let him nap during the day. Sounds like his days and nights are crossed. Keep any feeds at night very brief and boring. As little excitement as possible.
Posted by Queen
Member since Nov 2009
3021 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 7:56 pm to
Routine. Routine. Routine. And routine again. Not just all day, but a bedtime routine. Like bath, bottle, book, bed. Also try no stimulation for a little while before going down (like no music or tv or playtime that could get him riled up). Mine is 16 months and still winds up in our bed when we travel, but that's a disruption I can live with. It is going to suck but some things that worked for us at home:
- set waking and feeding schedule. He should know what to expect.
- how much of a nap happens during the day? Too much and he may just not be tired.
- do you have a co-sleeper? That might be a good way to transition. He can be next to you but not in your bed. Once he gets used to his own bed space go from there.
- stop walking and rocking and all that for an hour. The more you do that the more it will become necessary for him to sleep. Training goes both ways, and currently he is being trained to walk with mom for an hour before bed.
Posted by wal marks
bee arrah
Member since Mar 2013
1122 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 7:58 pm to
Gripe water
Posted by tigerbandpiccolo
Member since Oct 2005
49284 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 8:00 pm to
Does he have reflux? My oldest did that until we ended up at the pediatric ER (urgent care wouldn't see a child under 3 months) only to be told it was obvious he had bad reflux. We knew he spit up a lot but were clueless first time parents. Started Zantac and eventually moved to Prevacid. He slept through night immediately. He was in terrible pain. Much like adults, after eating all day the reflux is much worse at night.

PS: no shame in the Rock n Play! Oldest was in pack n play in our room for 8 months (I was too paranoid about him spitting up and choking or something) and new baby is in Rock N Play in our room. She was premature and is tiny so I imagine it'll be a long time before she's in the nursery.
This post was edited on 3/26/17 at 8:02 pm
Posted by mytigger
Member since Jan 2008
14863 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 8:01 pm to
Been said here already but stop the afternoon naps altogether. If you're letting junior nap until 5 pm or later then wondering why he won't' sleep at night, that's on you.

Also, get a night time routine... we always did baths right before bed. If you have stomach issues Mylocon or Dr. Brown's bottles work well.

Lastly, let the kid cry it out. 4.5 months he needs to be sleeping 8 hours +.
Posted by Sandtrap
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2006
2374 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 8:03 pm to
Our first had some stomach issues as well and switching from Rock 'n Play to crib was tough. You can put books or something else under one side of legs of the crib to elevate it slightly. That actually really helped ours because then they aren't sleeping completely flat.

Babywise is definitely the way to go. In addition, maybe put some mylicon gas drops in the bottle to help with stomach issues. Finally, be sure that at night it's same routine every night. For example, bath, bottle, book, then bed. Try to do all of those with very little light, so the baby knows it's nighttime.

If none of that works, you may have to resort to crying it out. Let them cry 10-15 minutes straight and if don't fall asleep after that time, go in and calm baby down and put them back down. If baby starts to cry again, start time again and do same thing. We had to resort to that and the baby NEVER cried past the second 15 minute timer. Crying it out is tough, but it's good in long run. Do y'all use pacifier?
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 8:05 pm to
put in car seat and drive. Worked for us. Less than 5 miles
Posted by dek81572
Bossier City
Member since Apr 2012
920 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 8:05 pm to
Let him cry it out and get yourself a box fan!
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18556 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 8:06 pm to
quote:

acid reflux...


This!

Took 4 months for our pediatrician to figure it out, but once he was on acid reflux medicine, going to sleep was so much easier.
Posted by CorkSoaker
Member since Oct 2008
9819 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 8:09 pm to
quote:

Took 4 months for our pediatrician to figure it out, but once he was on acid reflux medicine, going to sleep was so much easier.


Sounds like you need a new pediatrician.
This post was edited on 3/26/17 at 8:10 pm
Posted by djangochained
Gardere
Member since Jul 2013
19054 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 8:11 pm to
Too late to change this. He will get tired eventually

For the next baby. Put them on strict schedules
Posted by TechDawg2007
Bawville
Member since Nov 2007
32249 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 8:13 pm to
The Rock and play is fricking amazing!!!! Our son is 12 weeks old and at 9 weeks he has slept from 8:30 pm- 5:30/6:30 the next morning. We feed him 6 ounces of formula with cereal right before bedtime and then put him in the rock and play and he sleeps all night since week 9 :fingers crossed : it stays that way
Posted by nogoodjr
Member since Feb 2006
802 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 8:16 pm to
1. Schedule
2. Every night throw his/her blanket, baby clothes and towel in the dryer then start the bath.
3. Dry off with warm towel, place in warm clothes, wrap in warm blanket.
4. Feed bottle. I used 2tsp of rice cereal (reflex dose) per 4 oz formula to help with reflux.

Do the same pattern every night. The child will come to associate warm and feeding with nighttime.

Reflux should be pretty evident. You child would close their eyes and begin to drift off and all of the sudden grimace and start crying.
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