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Concealed Carry license
Posted on 12/10/15 at 12:43 am
Posted on 12/10/15 at 12:43 am
What are the classes like? What is involved with getting your license?
I am in Louisiana.
I am in Louisiana.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 1:11 am to danilo
I took the class at precision on Siegen in Baton Rouge,
Simple gun safety class plus some legal information , practical session at the range, good instructor.
There were people in there that had never seen a gun before based on the questions they asked.!!
We chose .22lr semi autos to qualify with, because as I recall, there was a difference in qualifying with a revolver , I don't know if that is still true or not.
You had to get fingerprinted and submit all the paperwork to the state police and it took months to get it.
Simple gun safety class plus some legal information , practical session at the range, good instructor.
There were people in there that had never seen a gun before based on the questions they asked.!!
We chose .22lr semi autos to qualify with, because as I recall, there was a difference in qualifying with a revolver , I don't know if that is still true or not.
You had to get fingerprinted and submit all the paperwork to the state police and it took months to get it.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 4:30 am to danilo
All that, plus you get to watch a few videos of people blowing their fingers off, muzzle sweeping, and a chick's spent casing ricocheting off the range wall and going down her low cut shirt.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 5:21 am to ecb
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We chose .22lr semi autos to qualify with
I kind of wish the state would stop allowing this unless the shooter has a medical condition that necessitates the need for something weaker than a service caliber. You might as well not take the shooting exam; I could probably get my dogs to shoot inside a B27 silhouette with a .22 at the test distances.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 6:26 am to NewtonD
When we qualified years ago, we shot our carry pistols to show we were proficient, then showed of with .22 semis.
It was fun because the instructor was cool and we were the only two shooting that day. We couldn't make the class shoot but he met us at his range.
It was fun because the instructor was cool and we were the only two shooting that day. We couldn't make the class shoot but he met us at his range.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 6:28 am to NewtonD
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I kind of wish the state would stop allowing this unless the shooter has a medical condition that necessitates the need for something weaker than a service caliber. You might as well not take the shooting exam; I could probably get my dogs to shoot inside a B27 silhouette with a .22 at the test distances.
I agree. I require .380/.38 as a minimum (9mm is the most common one I use though). But one thing for you to understand - the shooting portion isn't necessarily testing your skill level. You should be able to hit the silhouette every time. The main thing it that is being tested is your shooting form and your firearm safety. I have never failed a student or seen anything negligent but the first time a shooter hits the firing line it usually requires a bit of repetition for me - take your finger off the trigger, don't cross your thumbs behind the slide, bring the gun to your eyes, etc.
LSP accepts NRA basic pistol as one of their approved courses. Some instructors teach it straight up this way but the NRA avoids using anything in their basic pistol guide that would imply having to shoot a human being. If you want a high quality class, make sure the instructor covers more than just NRA basic pistol. My personal one includes the basics from NRA basic pistol but also extensively covers the law with some hypothetical scenarios and I have an FAQ section afterward.
One big thing to know is this - the CC course is NOT a defensive shooting course. It is a legal use of force class. It will tell you the basics but it will not make you an outstanding shooter. If you really want to improve your handgun skills, take a defensive shooting course where you put 100s of rounds downrange. Those teach you the fundamentals, force you into uncomfortable shooting positions, and require you to think critically very quickly. They are invaluable.
This post was edited on 12/10/15 at 6:29 am
Posted on 12/10/15 at 6:29 am to ecb
Why's there a difference to qualify with a revolver?
In looking to take a CC class after hunting season and all I own is a revolver. I have a semi auto .22 pistol but that would be like cheating.
In looking to take a CC class after hunting season and all I own is a revolver. I have a semi auto .22 pistol but that would be like cheating.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 6:48 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
There is no difference.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 7:04 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
obviously bapple has a better understanding, but if i remember correctly if you qualify with a revolver that is the only weapon you can carry? if you qualify with a semi auto then you can carry either...
Posted on 12/10/15 at 7:10 am to danilo
My recent experience:
I took a class on Oct.31
Filled out application online and uploaded class completion certificate the following Monday.
Went to LSP for fingerprints on Tuesday. GO EARLY!!
Got an email on Wednesday from state saying application was accepted and please remit payment
Got an email on Friday saying my application was approved and CC permit will be in the mail.
Received my permit the following Thursday.
A little less than 2 weeks from class to permit holder.
And yes, there were some people in the class that had never fired a gun and made me nervous to know they might be armed in public.
I took a class on Oct.31
Filled out application online and uploaded class completion certificate the following Monday.
Went to LSP for fingerprints on Tuesday. GO EARLY!!
Got an email on Wednesday from state saying application was accepted and please remit payment
Got an email on Friday saying my application was approved and CC permit will be in the mail.
Received my permit the following Thursday.
A little less than 2 weeks from class to permit holder.
And yes, there were some people in the class that had never fired a gun and made me nervous to know they might be armed in public.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 7:14 am to igchris
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There is no difference.
Not sure if there still is but I know there used to be.
The difference was/is that if you qualify with a semi-auto you could carry any type of handgun (derringer, revolver or semi) and you would have that designation on your license (D, R or S). If you qualify with a revolver, you can only carry a revolver or derringer and would have a R on your license.
Again I'm not sure if this is still the case (maybe bapple could answer that) but I know it used to be and it was on my license when I lived in Oklahoma. Its nowhere on my La license though.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 7:35 am to shawnlsu
Ive never heard of a restriction in what you could legally concealed carry. I' m pretty sure the shooting class is, as someone else said, to show that you can handle the weapon safely and proficiently.
This post was edited on 12/10/15 at 7:36 am
Posted on 12/10/15 at 7:49 am to shawnlsu
If that's true it's no big deal I can borrow a gun from a friend.
What's the logic behind that? I thought the class was about legal implications of carrying a gun and not the physical use of the gun.
What's the logic behind that? I thought the class was about legal implications of carrying a gun and not the physical use of the gun.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:00 am to slinger1317
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A little less than 2 weeks from class to permit holder.
I was told that if you go to LSP for fingerprinting, the whole process is expedited. It could take weeks instead of months.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:12 am to doublecutter
Yes that's what I did. Our instructor said the 2 things you can do to expedite the process are submitting the application online rather than paper, and to be fingerprinted at LSP.
I went to LSP around 10 am on a Tuesday and had about an hour wait.
I went to LSP around 10 am on a Tuesday and had about an hour wait.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:23 am to bapple
quote:Do you know of a good website or anything that would cover La's reciprocity laws with Tx? I know they honor each others licenses, but I'd like to know for sure what not to do when I come to La and I'm carrying.
bapple
And for what it's worth, in Tx you have to qualify with a .32 or larger and it can be a revolver or semi-auto. We used to have that law as well that what you qualified with determined what you could carry, but they did away with that.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:32 am to bapple
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bring the gun to your eyes, etc.
this is the most common bad habit I see
Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:42 am to bapple
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bapple
any recommendations for a good defensive shooting class in new orleans?
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:37 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:There is absolutely no restriction on using a revolver vs. a semi-auto. You can shoot either one in a CHP class, and you can carry either one once you get a permit.
If that's true it's no big deal I can borrow a gun from a friend.
What's the logic behind that? I thought the class was about legal implications of carrying a gun and not the physical use of the gun.
FWIW in my classes - no .22's, .25's .32's or .380's unless you have a medical condition that limits your ability to shoot a service caliber weapon. This is my policy, not a State Police rule.
Of course, my class is different from all the other classes. I don't follow the NRA "Basic Pistol" curriculum - because I'm also certified by NRA as a Personal Protection Instruction.
So my classes have a different mix of student -- because I don't accept non-shooters. If you don't already know how to shoot, I send them to one of the basic classes, such as Precision Indoor Range (they teach a good basic CCW class).
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:39 am to theOG
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any recommendations for a good defensive shooting class in new orleans?
I'm signed up for some classes at VATA in Slidell in January. It's the same group that does the "First Person Defender" series on Youtube. They look pretty legit.
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