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US consumers with prime credit are starting to slip on payments
Posted on 8/26/25 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 8/26/25 at 12:59 pm
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NEW YORK, Aug 25 (Reuters) - U.S. consumers with the highest credit scores are starting to fall behind in debt repayments, credit scoring company VantageScore said in a report published on Monday, in a sign that Americans' financial health may be deteriorating more broadly.
Late repayments over 90 days were up 109% year-over-year in the VantageScore superprime segment, while the prime segment posted a 47% increase year-over-year.
In relative terms the sharpest increase in delinquencies was seen in superprime and prime customers who are typically considered the most financially secure, Rikard Bandebo, chief economist at VantageScore, said.
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There has also been an uptick in late-stage delinquencies in auto loans and mortgages, as consumers grapple with budget strains, Bandebo added.
Defaults in early stage, which constitute late repayments between 30 days and 59 days, increased at the fastest pace in auto loans and mortgages.
"Defaults on secured loans, such as mortgages, typically happen only when the pressure on finances is too much for the consumer to manage," he said.
Prime customers have credit scores between 661-780, while super prime customers have scores between 781-850, according to VantageScore.
New originations for auto loans and mortgages also fell in July, according to VantageScore.
Americans are getting more sensitive to price changes. Walmart, the world's largest retailer, has scooped up market share from rivals as wealthier consumers frequent the store more often, worried about the effects of tariffs on prices.
U.S. consumer sentiment also softened in August as households anticipated higher goods prices because of import tariffs. Inflation concerns have been weighing on consumers.
Last month, U.S. banking giants said consumers remained in good shape, but warned of potential weakness ahead. There were concerns that spending could cool off in the second half of this year.
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 1:07 pm to ragincajun03
When people start defaulting on their credit cards en masse, that’s going to be the domino that kicks off the next financial disaster IMO
Posted on 8/26/25 at 1:07 pm to ragincajun03
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Prime customers have credit scores between 661-780
Is this really a shock?
Posted on 8/26/25 at 1:10 pm to ragincajun03
Club super prime checking in.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 1:12 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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When people start defaulting on their credit cards en masse, that’s going to be the domino that kicks off the next financial disaster IMO
I think this is what we all know, and have all been expecting to happen any day now since 2021.
It somehow has refused to happen.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 1:12 pm to ragincajun03
Is this a real surprise? Most Americans have far less buying power than we did just 5 years ago, so if someone was living at their means in 2020, how are they covering the inflation?
Every time I see people I know with the garage full of toys, the boat and the 3 kids in private school take their $15K family vacation, I’m wondering how long it’ll be before they’re defaulting.
Every time I see people I know with the garage full of toys, the boat and the 3 kids in private school take their $15K family vacation, I’m wondering how long it’ll be before they’re defaulting.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 1:12 pm to upgrayedd
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Prime customers have credit scores between 661-780
Would have thought higher
Luckily my FICO and Vantage scores are both in the 830s
Posted on 8/26/25 at 1:24 pm to ragincajun03
My shite slipped from 800 something because a fricking POS gas company charged me for gas to a house that never had gas from before I bought it to the present. Gas was always shut off but they charged me an estimate or some shite, and nobody there had enough brains to just deal with that and not charge me. Hours on the phone with various people, and nobody could do anything. So now I’m the a-hole with less than stellar credit, because customer service sucks balls now. Maybe it’s a lot of us dealing with bullshite like that. We still have money.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 1:25 pm to ragincajun03
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Americans’ total credit card balance is $1.209 trillion as of the second quarter of 2025, according to the latest consumer debt data from the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. That’s up from $1.182 trillion in Q1 2025 but down slightly from $1.211 trillion in Q4 2024, which is the highest balance since the New York Fed began tracking in 1999.
54% of Americans pay off the balance each month.
46% carry a balance.
3.05% are delinquent.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 1:27 pm to ragincajun03
In my mind, despite me having a good salary and a fairly secure job, we are already in a post-abundance era that will likely turn into a full-blown depression.
I’m already trying to live that way, is what I mean. That can’t be good for the economy.
I’m already trying to live that way, is what I mean. That can’t be good for the economy.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 1:33 pm to ragincajun03
Stolen elections have consequences
Posted on 8/26/25 at 1:37 pm to GrassyKnoll556
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Stolen elections have consequences
Exactly what I've been saying.
Harris probably won every state outright except for Louisiana and Mississippi counting legit votes. But Republicans stuffed the hell out of the ballots and cheated to get Trump back into the White House.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 1:46 pm to ragincajun03
I believe it! Prices on everything are still going up. In the past, many employers gave raises and bonuses to compensate for cost of living increase. Now not so much as businesses have less profit margin or struggling. Now cant keep pace with rise in homeowners insurance and car insurance. Not to mention going to the grocery store. Certainly noticed increase in prices past couple of months.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 1:47 pm to ragincajun03
No idea where we go from here, but the parallels between today and 1929 are striking, including the massive crisis about 15 years before where we pumped a bunch of money into the markets to prop them up and it worked.
Asset prices are way too high. Inflation running wild. Wages not growing. Something has to give. Or maybe this is where the two tiered economy takes full effect and this crushes the bottom 80-90% and elevates the top .1% out of reach.
Asset prices are way too high. Inflation running wild. Wages not growing. Something has to give. Or maybe this is where the two tiered economy takes full effect and this crushes the bottom 80-90% and elevates the top .1% out of reach.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 1:49 pm to ragincajun03
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But Republicans stuffed the hell out of the ballots and cheated
You misspelled Democrats
Posted on 8/26/25 at 1:51 pm to ragincajun03
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Prime customers have credit scores between 661-780
Seriously? I always had the impression that you should be ashamed of anything under 750
Posted on 8/26/25 at 1:51 pm to Mudminnow
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cant keep pace with rise in homeowners insurance and car insurance
Seem to get almost double-whammied on these if you have to buy a home or a car these days, as not only the rate itself, but the prices of houses and vehicles these days is absurd compared to just 2019/2020.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 1:56 pm to GrassyKnoll556
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Stolen elections have consequences
Yup, finally feeling the ramifications of the 2020 stolen election.
That’s what you meant, right?
This post was edited on 8/26/25 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 8/26/25 at 1:59 pm to ragincajun03
We just paid off all non- mortgage debt, so I assume that means those in debt are about to get an awesome bailout of some kind.
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