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Last time any lsu pitcher threw 130+?
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:19 pm
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:19 pm
Skenes 124
Gausman 122
Chat GPT couldn’t answer this question, but I’m sure the rant can.
That was a gem, btw. Also he gets an extra day rest next week.
Gausman 122
Chat GPT couldn’t answer this question, but I’m sure the rant can.
That was a gem, btw. Also he gets an extra day rest next week.
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:24 pm to Chipand2Putts
Mestepey threw 153 pitches in his 10 inning outing in Game 1 vs Tulane in the 2001 Super Regional.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:27 pm to Chipand2Putts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:31 pm to The Boat
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Mestepey threw 153 pitches in his 10 inning outing in Game 1 vs Tulane in the 2001
Lane train
This post was edited on 4/4/25 at 6:39 am
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:43 pm to The Boat
A real rubber arm.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:46 pm to The Boat
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Mestepey threw 153 pitches in his 10 inning outing in Game 1 vs Tulane in the 2001 Super Regional.
Lane's game was 24 years ago? frick...
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:50 pm to LSU316
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A real rubber arm.
Skip and Smoke destroyed his arm under the guise of it being rubber and ruined his career. Skip was actually worse about it than Smoke was. Go back and look at how they used him.
In 2001 Mestepey went 8/119 on Friday against South Carolina. Then he went 7.2/100 against Tulane on Wednesday because LSU had already lost to Tulane and Skip didn’t want to go 0-2 against Tulane in his final season. (LSU lost that night anyways to go 0-2 against Tulane.. then the Super Regional happened). Then he went 9/113 against Ole Miss on Sunday.
24.2 innings and 332 pitches in 10 days as a Freshman.
Mestepey started the 1/4 Friday afternoon regional game against Minnesota in 2001 and went 5.2/106 and came back on Sunday night and started game 7 against VCU and went 6.1/97.
This post was edited on 4/3/25 at 10:56 pm
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:51 pm to Chipand2Putts
Pitch counts are so overblown. It's the recovery time that is more the issue. If Anderson were to throw 135 tonight then come back on 3 days rest then that's a problem. But you'll hear backlash anytime a coach let's a pitcher throw over 115 or so pitches. There's no difference between them throwing 110 or 140 as long as they have proper recovery time.
This post was edited on 4/3/25 at 10:54 pm
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:52 pm to Chipand2Putts
130 mph is really fast!
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:54 pm to Chipand2Putts
Poche had a game where he was in the 120s. Not sure if he cracked 130 though.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 6:24 am to tigerinthebayou
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There's no difference between them throwing 110 or 140 as long as they have proper recovery time.
The data says this says that isn’t true, pitch count is one of the most correlated items with arm issues.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 6:32 am to barry
The best part was Franques grabbing him for the post-game interview
How ab we let him go ice his shite down
How ab we let him go ice his shite down
Posted on 4/4/25 at 6:35 am to barry
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There's no difference between them throwing 110 or 140 as long as they have proper recovery time.
The data says this says that isn’t true, pitch count is one of the most correlated items with arm issues.
I read a study na while back that said (I do not recall the exact numbers) something like 85% of injuries to pitchers happen after pitch number 100. Point is, when fatigue sets in, the mechanics break down. That is when injuries happen.
So yes, there is a big difference (for the vast majority of people) between throwing 110, or 140.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:03 am to Screaming Viking
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I read a study na while back that said (I do not recall the exact numbers) something like 85% of injuries to pitchers happen after pitch number 100. Point is, when fatigue sets in, the mechanics break down. That is when injuries happen.
So yes, there is a big difference (for the vast majority of people) between throwing 110, or 140.
it's a whole lot more involved than just the number of pitches.
but pitch count is the easy number to see and know so it gets thrown around.
if it was as simple as number of pitches thrown, then the number of TJ surgeries should be going down instead of up.
Average number of pitches thrown per game has been trending downward but number of TJ surgeries are going up.
from 2008-2023 (removing 2020 since it was not a full season)
2021 saw the 2nd lowest average Pitch Count by pitcher in MLB in that span. But also saw the 2nd Highest Number of TJ surgeries
2023 was 3rd lowest Pitch Count Average and 3rd Highest number of TJ
2022 was lowest average Pitch count but 5th highest TJ.
2010 was highest average pitch count and 2nd lowest number of TJ
2011 was 2nd highest pitch count and 3rd lowest number of TJ
so it ain't simply numbers of pitches being thrown.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:24 am to Nutriaitch
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so it ain't simply numbers of pitches being thrown.
It's what type of pitches that are being thrown. The high velocity high spin rate cutters, splitter, sweepers and breaking pitches are what's doing it. Not so much the high velocity straight fastballs and changeups.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:26 am to Chipand2Putts
I believe Ben McDonald routinely threw in the 150's.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:14 am to Chipand2Putts
LSU has wiped old box scores up until 2010 after they re-designed the website.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:54 am to barry
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The data says this says that isn’t true, pitch count is one of the most correlated items with arm issues.
It should really be required to link the “data” that says this
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:54 am to Screaming Viking
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So yes, there is a big difference (for the vast majority of people) between throwing 110, or 140.
What about warming up? Nobody talks about throwing 25+ pitches before the game. Some guys throw a complete inning in the pen before they run out there. These are not counted towards the pitch count.
And yes, I know "they don't throw 100% the whole bullpen" but they do for a portion of it for sure. Everyone is different when it comes to how many pitches they can throw and recover from. Some guys are so smooth and fluid the wear on their arm is far less than a herky jerky max effort guy.
What I am trying to say is pitch count can't be a make or break metric on arm management.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:57 am to Chipand2Putts
Let it go. The bigger problem is kids throwing junk at to early of an age.
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