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My buddy that’s NOLA PD and SWAT

Posted on 7/14/24 at 6:22 pm
Posted by CrawfishElvis
Member since Apr 2021
1093 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 6:22 pm
Huge Trump guy. Worked detail last time he went to NOLA. I texted him and asked if he thinks it was inside job or incompetence from SS and he sent me this…

Neither. It was textbook on all ends.

The thing people need to realize is how it actually works. So presidential details are a completely different beast with different rules. First off, there are 3 elements of protection. Level 1 is the interior team. Their job is just to be a human shield.. the people you lay on him and they don’t move until they get told all clear, then they get the frick as soon as possible. Level 2 is the soft perimeter- just outside the main area. This level is the state agencies assisting (swat for most cases). And then you have the SS sniper team(s) as level 3. Each team or level has to trust the others will do their job and they only focus on their AOR (area of responsibility). So level 1 AOR is the venue limit, level 2 AOR is the perimeter to about 200 yards, and level 3 AOR is from about 200 yards+.

Plus the state agencies and SS do not operate on the same radio channels. Only one dude on the state side will have a radio given to them by the SS and it is that person’s job to relay info from each radio - so it’s not an instant exchange of information between the two elements.

Now with that info, they said on lookers saw a guy climbing on the roof and told the police (state agency - level 2). *now this part hasn’t been confirmed yet - but allegedly an officer climbed the ladder and the shooter pointed his rifle at him which the officer came down the ladder* Now, if that’s true it would make sense - this notion that police should just put themselves in a position to die because he has a gun is dumb. The police’s job is to stop the killing, can’t do that if you’re dead (granted sometimes you don’t have a choice and just have to eat the “shite sandwich” but this wouldn’t be one of those times because you have sniper support). So I imagine this officer came down the ladder and transmitted what he saw on the radio, which then had to be relayed to the SS - all of which would explain why the video of the sniper team shows them adjusting they rifle to a lower angle (moving from their AOR to a closer target). Once he does that the sniper then comes off scope to see the “bigger picture” of what he is looking at - most likely trying to figure out is it just some crazy fan trying to look into the venue or is he a threat. While he’s assessing the situation, the shorter cracks off 1 round and the sniper instantly sends a “snap shot” - sniper lingo for firing while acquiring the target without time to make the adjustments.

Unfortunately, action is faster than reaction and 99% of time if someone has hate in their heart they are going to get a chance before someone can stop them. Listening to the audio of the gun fire, it sounded like the first shot was an AR, followed by a .308, then immediately chased by an AR. Then there’s a pause followed by a barrage of multiple rounds.

So if I had to guess the officer got off the ladder, radioed it and once it was relayed to the other channel - SS snipers engaged the target, the level 2 element had approached the building during the relay of info and sniper engagement, level two then tactical advanced on the roof and turned him into a human sprinkler.


Again, this is all off of what I heard and saw online and logically came up on conclusion based on my experiences.
On top of all of it luckily this dude thinks it’s call of duty and head shots are easy… that’s why police aim center mass, larger target. Add the pressure to hurry before being spotted and nerves and apparently this dipshit was such a bad shot he couldn’t make the high school rifle team…
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
175952 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 6:25 pm to
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Add the pressure to hurry before being spotted and nerves


Missed by less than a half inch while Trump had a moving head target.
Posted by SippyCup
Gulf Coast
Member since Sep 2008
6790 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 6:27 pm to
Still doesn’t explain having an unsecured roof top.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
79933 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 6:27 pm to
Letting a guy climb a building 150 yards from the protectee with a rifle and not take him out is textbook?
This post was edited on 7/14/24 at 6:30 pm
Posted by DaBike
Member since Jan 2008
10426 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 6:28 pm to
The roof should have never been left unsecured.
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
5598 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 6:29 pm to
quote:

was textbook on all ends.


But they did not do this.

quote:

level 2 AOR is the perimeter to about 200 yards, and level 3 AOR is from about 200 yards+.


Therefore it is not “textbook”
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
42908 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 6:31 pm to
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and the sniper instantly sends a “snap shot” - sniper lingo for firing while acquiring the target without time to make the adjustments.


That bozo didn’t even mean to pull the trigger. He shot straight into the ground.
This post was edited on 7/14/24 at 6:32 pm
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23326 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 6:31 pm to
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It was textbook on all ends.


Interesting.



I hope you aren’t taking any stock advice from your “buddy.”

Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
21198 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 6:31 pm to
textbook my arse, it was inexcusable to not sweep every building top to bottom and have someone watching the entrances of buildings within shooting range
This post was edited on 7/14/24 at 6:32 pm
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26097 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 6:31 pm to
On the other hand, Dan Bongino who worked for the USSS said it was an apocalyptic failure and just because they were lucky Trump survived, doesn't mean they did the job. No one should be taking a victory lap here.
Posted by Bayoutigre
29.9N 92.1W
Member since Feb 2007
5900 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 6:31 pm to
none of it is real
acting
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10727 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 6:32 pm to
quote:


Missed by less than a half inch while Trump had a moving head target.


Maybe there was another better trained shooter further away?
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39450 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 6:33 pm to
Sorry I believe Bongino and a couple other old military veterans.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20189 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 6:34 pm to
You know how many issues we would’ve had over the years if it was “textbook” to leave a rooftop 150 yards away from a president uncovered while not responding to a hostile with a gun immediately?

Either your source doesn’t understand the facts or someone is blowing smoke.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47304 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 6:34 pm to
so a cop on the ladder is supposed to "radio it in" to someone else a football field away, and not do anything about it?


Horse shite
Posted by Longhorn Actual
Member since Dec 2023
2870 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 6:34 pm to
Ah, yes. NOPD SWAT. The pinnacle of skill and professionalism.

Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19367 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 6:35 pm to
Tell your friend I am glad he isn’t a Secret Service Agent. Although, he might fit in with this crop of SS agents. Dan Bongino who actually was one called this a “catastrophic failure”. Their one job to protect Trump and he almost lost his life. He was shot.
This post was edited on 7/14/24 at 6:36 pm
Posted by Jspaspa3303
Member since Jun 2020
2923 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 6:35 pm to
Still does not explain why no one was stationed on that roof . Not questioning how they responded , I’m questioning why no one was on that rooftop, which had a clear shot at the president .
This post was edited on 7/14/24 at 6:38 pm
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
10733 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 6:35 pm to
You and your "buddy" are full of horse shite.

There's NOTHING textbook about not having the closest high ground not secured.
Posted by ValhallaAwaits
Member since Aug 2021
506 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 6:35 pm to
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Neither. It was textbook on all ends


Wrong…on all ends.
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