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Dexter Reed. The next George Floyd?

Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:36 pm
Posted by East Coast Band
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:36 pm
Just note that this is from the AP
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CHICAGO (AP) — A deadly traffic stop where plainclothes Chicago police officers fired nearly 100 shots in under a minute has raised serious questions about the use of force and role of tactical officers in departments.

As family and community members mourn 26-year-old Dexter Reed, a police oversight agency and Cook County prosecutors are investigating.



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Videos and documents released this week by the Chicago Office of Police Accountability paint a harrowing picture of what happened during the March 21 traffic stop.

But about a week ago, the oversight agency’s leader expressed “grave concerns” about the officers’ actions in a letter to Police Superintendent Larry Snelling.

Officers in an unmarked police car stopped Reed for not wearing a seatbelt, according to COPA. But things devolved quickly as he appeared to refuse officers’ commands and didn’t immediately leave the SUV, according to video.



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Reed fired first, according to COPA, leaving an officer with a wrist injury. Then four officers fired 96 shots in a span of 41 seconds, including after Reed exited the vehicle, fell to the ground and lay motionless. One officer alone fired 50 shots.

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Based on the totality of the available evidence, COPA has grave concerns about the officers’ ability to assess what is a necessary, reasonable, and proportional use of deadly force,” COPA Chief Administrator Andrea Kersten wrote in an April 1 letter obtained through a records request.

The American Civil Liberties Union also criticized the officers’ actions, including for immediately drawing guns and making profanity-laced commands.

“From the moment they all jump into the vehicle to chase the car, you can feel the adrenaline rush,” said ACLU of Illinois spokesman Ed Yonka. “There were no efforts at de-escalation.”



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Doubts have been raised about whether there was a seat belt violation that led to the stop.

Experts questioned tactical officers’ involvement.

“Why would a police officer, not in uniform, bother with something like that?” asked Geoffrey Alpert, a researcher at the University of South Carolina specializing in high-risk police activities.

Reed’s SUV had dark tinted windows, making it difficult for officers to see inside, Kersten noted in her letter.



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The available evidence calls into question the veracity of this account,” Kersten wrote to Snelling.

Reed’s family members were also skeptical.

“If he was supposedly pulled over for a traffic stop, why did they have four guns pointed at him?” Reed’s sister, Porscha Banks, told reporters after the videos were released. “He was scared.”



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All 96 shots need to be accounted for. That means, ‘Why were they fired?’” Alpert said. “The only reason you can fire is if this guy is creating an imminent threat.”

The videos don’t show Reed firing a gun. Police later found a weapon on the passenger side seat of his vehicle.

Footage from body-worn cameras offer glimpses into the confusing and distressing situation, including an officer who applied a tourniquet to a bleeding colleague.



Of course the article includes a nice high school photo of the now deceased 26 year old for an added touch.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:36 pm to
I'm thinking I may have this one crossed up with something else based on the replies, carry on
This post was edited on 4/11/24 at 1:41 pm
Posted by PureBlood
The Motherland
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:37 pm to
Floyd overdosed but facts be damned for the young urban democrats.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:38 pm to
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Reed fired first

This bit here should be in the first paragraph.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:38 pm to
Reed fired first

Shouldn't that be the end of the discussion?
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6475 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:39 pm to
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Reed fired first


this is what it boils down to for me..
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40946 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:39 pm to
Police were out of line, you have to actually get shot to fire back.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
18426 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:40 pm to
A mother shouldn't have to fear for her son's life every time he shoots at police during a traffic stop :(
Posted by Cotten
Tennessee
Member since Jan 2018
1282 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:41 pm to
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“The only reason you can fire is if this guy is creating an imminent threat.”

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Reed fired first

Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
35720 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:42 pm to
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police officers fired nearly 100 shots in under a minute


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Reed fired first


Even though the dead guy fired first rule of thumb says you should only fire 60-80 rounds in under a minute. Clearly they were way over that in this case.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:52 pm to
I’m going to hold my comments until we know more. If he did, indeed, fire first, case closed, imo.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
15968 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:55 pm to
The media is trying like hell to push this as cops murdering a poor black kid. In the last week, the usual suspects have been organizing protests, with pics of Reed in his high school cap and gown on flyers.

Reed is actually 26 yrs old with a rap sheet. You'll hear he was pulled over for just a seatbelt violation, but he was also wearing a ski mask.

I watched all the body cam footage when it was released yesterday morning. He wasn't compliant, and he shot a cop by the passenger side of his car. That's when all hell broke loose.

Of course the AP reports the cops fired 96 times. The police report states there were 96 shots fired in total, 79 of which came from the cops on scene, so maybe around 15 rounds each. Which means 17 came from Reed.

It was a good shoot.
Posted by whitetiger1234
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Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 2:01 pm to
Saw the video.

He shot first after refusing to roll down his windo/open his door, the cops shot back, cops won their 1v1.

Nothing about this deserves protests or rioting.
This post was edited on 4/11/24 at 2:02 pm
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 2:02 pm to
Hope so. The DNC convention is in Chicago this year. Would love to watch them burn down the city while nominating someone trying to burn down the country
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
51100 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 2:04 pm to
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Dexter Reed. The next George Floyd?


You mean another black man who died due to his own stupidity that the left will be happy to lynch a white man over?

Possibly.
This post was edited on 4/11/24 at 2:05 pm
Posted by jose
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 2:04 pm to
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Reed fired first


Should just end here.

Sounds like this upstanding citizen may have had something to hide in his care and didn't want them finding it. May have ended up being a bit more than a seatbelt violation.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124908 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 2:06 pm to
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Reed fired first,



Well then. I'm sure it was the 1st shot that killed him and not the 93rd. The 94th was just overkill
Posted by MaxxPain2
Member since Oct 2021
726 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 2:07 pm to
This dumbfrick did not comply and fired a weapon at a cop.

How does the "family" think the cops should have responded?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116697 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 2:08 pm to
The media is DESPERATELY trying to make this a thing. Like, really desperately.

And they might whip some ignorant people, despite the video of him literally shooting at police.


The latest meme is he was just pulled over for a seatbelt violation
Posted by Christopher Columbo
Member since Jun 2015
2139 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 2:11 pm to
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