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re: ATF Obscured Doorbell Camera Before Deadly Pre-Dawn Raid In Arkansas…
Posted on 4/9/24 at 9:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 4/9/24 at 9:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/9/24 at 9:16 pm to Lima Whiskey
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Does anyone have friends who worked for the ATF?
I worked with a woman who was engaged to an ATF agent. She said he would disappear for a couple of days occasionally because he was trailing some big shipment of something. Sounded like a great excuse to hang out with his other fiancée.
She told a story where they were in their condo one night and the agent said he saw someone milling around on the sidewalk in front of their unit. He told her to go upstairs, turned out the lights, opened the front door, and sat inside the condo with his pistol pointed at the door. He was hoping to lure the guy inside so he could shoot him.
I don’t know if they ever got married.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 9:21 pm to BobABooey
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Posted on 4/9/24 at 9:23 pm to Toomer Deplorable
So a man is at home asleep and hears a sound at his front door that wakes him up. He looks at his camera feed and realizes it has been covered. What does a man do?
Does he try to protect himself or does he curl up in a fetal position under the covers?
Did the ATF monsters find him dead in a fetal position or not?
Does he try to protect himself or does he curl up in a fetal position under the covers?
Did the ATF monsters find him dead in a fetal position or not?
Posted on 4/9/24 at 9:32 pm to Hangover Haven
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Not all ATF agents are bad people, they basically follow orders from the top.
None of them - Zero, Zip, Nada, None - ever speak out against the criminality that their organization is involved in. So, shutting up and following orders makes them complicit in he criminality.
This post was edited on 4/9/24 at 9:39 pm
Posted on 4/9/24 at 9:37 pm to VOR
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I had a friend who was an agent for Homeland Security, but that’s it. He did get to do some cool stuff involving arms dealers and human trafficking.
Cool. What has he said publicly about .gov hiding from what they know took place on Epstein Island?
Posted on 4/9/24 at 9:50 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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taping over the lens of the doorbell camera which ended that video record
Ring sucks as a security camera. It's useful for checking to see whether you want to answer the door or not, and that's about it. I like backing up my doorbell camera with cameras that can't be defeated by a piece of tape.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 10:12 pm to fwtex
quote:Yep.
These Fed no knock raids are designed and intended to kill their target.
If you’re the recipient of a no-knock raid, you’ll be lucky to make it out alive.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 10:14 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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ATF
Should not exist.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 10:29 pm to Hangover Haven
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they basically follow orders from the top.
This does not make it ok to do what they do to citizens.
Remember, the guards at the concentration camps were just following orders too.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 11:12 pm to Toomer Deplorable
Look at the pic of this guy. He was an airport executive. This was a straight up murder.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna144207
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna144207
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:03 am to Toomer Deplorable
Even if they covered up the doorbell camera w/ a piece of tape, wouldn't the audio still be available to prove or disprove the allegation that they didn't provide proper announcement of their entry?? 
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:22 am to AUbagman
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I worked for Fed Gov (DOD role) and was miserable because of the waste, laziness, and lack of work ethic
I worked as a fed contractor for another department and started looking for jobs after 3 months and only stayed 8, it was complete misery.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:33 am to SlowFlowPro
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b. There still isn't evidence this was a no knock warrant. From the article in OP:
Oh yea, and I’m sure it’ll definitely see the light of day.
Wake up people! These motherfrickers are killing citizens and getting away with it.
The ATF’s very existence is unconstitutional. We, as citizens, have the right to bear arms!
“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
What the frick do some people not understand about this?! We are Americans. And there are people debating in a god damn forum about a no knock raid where a citizen was targeted and murdered!
For what? Was he breaking the chickenshit law??! Did he have a god damn pistol brace?! Did he not cooperate with our corrupt and unjust government?
Will any of these pieces of shite be held accountable??! Ever?
It’s a fricking disgrace.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 1:10 am to Timeoday
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So a man is at home asleep and hears a sound at his front door that wakes him up. He looks at his camera feed and realizes it has been covered. What does a man do?
This is 100 percent an attempt to escalate the situation..
our doorbell rang twice, a couple of nights ago, right around 2:00 AM. I jumped up, grabbed a gun, and made my way to the door. Only after waking up a bit did I think to check the camera. Seeing that it was a cop I decided to bring the gun but leave it on an entryway bench. He was responding to a 911 call that they said originated from our location. he was very polite and professional. he left. we went back to bed.
how differently would that encounter have gone if he was covering the camera? would I have been awake and rational enough to call the cops and take a defensive posture at the door? or would I have answered swinging around an AR?
either way. it makes things much more dangerous than they should be. I see no legit reason for LE doing that.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 1:15 am to Toomer Deplorable
Cops have gone the wrong address and executed innocent people many times. Why don't you all find that just as bad as what the ATF did?
Posted on 4/10/24 at 6:20 am to lsuconnman
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I’m inclined to believe they met the definition of knocking. But, only because it took two or three more swing than anticipated to open the door.
I’m inclined to believe it was a successful assault as far the Federal Government is concerned. Shock troops exist to lead a frontal assault while inflicting heavy casualties on the enemy (i.e. U.S. citizens) while similarly risking the possibility of heavy casualties themselves.
Though one brave government trooper was shot, he is expected to recover. It was thus a good shoot since the white-hats all made it home alive.
This post was edited on 4/10/24 at 5:44 pm
Posted on 4/10/24 at 6:40 am to Toomer Deplorable
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ATF
The entirety of our Federal LE and IC needs to be razed to the ground...
Posted on 4/10/24 at 7:14 am to Toomer Deplorable
The highest paid city official in Little Rock ambushed for no reason. Sad.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 7:22 am to RFK
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My first cousin has been an ATF agent for over 15 years now. I remember it was very competitive and he had to go through several rounds of interviews before he was hired. This could have been because it was around 2009 and the recession probably had alot of people applying.
And he had a BS from UT Austin and Masters from Louisiana Tech.
I would say he was always the “quiet professional” type. Still is, but the ATF has definitely made him more skeptical of everyone. I would also say it has strangely made him more liberal, or at least pro-fed. He took issue with a lot of things Trump did/said while he was president, which you wouldn’t think if you looked at him.
Like many current high ranking military officers…..these people care more about their careers than the constitution. Please tell you cousin he needs to stop sucking dick to get promoted.
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