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re: ATF Obscured Doorbell Camera Before Deadly Pre-Dawn Raid In Arkansas…

Posted on 4/9/24 at 6:00 pm to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 4/9/24 at 6:00 pm to
I wonder what would happen if someone went to AFT HQ and started putting tape on all the cameras.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 4/9/24 at 6:03 pm to
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ATF Obscured Doorbell Camera Before Deadly Pre-Dawn Raid In Arkansas…


i would love to read in that search warrant, where it specifically says security cameras can be damaged, taped over, blocked, and/or turned off?

i cant wait to hear the reason why you cant be allowed to record what they are doing?
This post was edited on 4/9/24 at 6:05 pm
Posted by Konkey Dong
Member since Aug 2013
2166 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 6:10 pm to
You think covering a camera isn’t gonna raise suspicion to the homeowner? You have no clue how doorbell cameras work
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72127 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 6:23 pm to
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i would love to read in that search warrant, where it specifically says security cameras can be damaged, taped over, blocked, and/or turned off?


It wouldn't need to specifically call out security cameras. The warrant mentions electronic devices related to transporting firearms. That's probably enough.
Posted by fwtex
Member since Nov 2019
1957 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 6:30 pm to
These Fed no knock raids are designed and intended to kill their target. Isn't it strange that the MSM and anti police activists don't say anything or have spontaneous protest?
This post was edited on 4/9/24 at 6:34 pm
Posted by Epaminondas
The Boot
Member since Jul 2020
4206 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 6:31 pm to
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KATV reported that an ATF agent was also shot during the incident but was expected to fully recover.
Damn.
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/9/24 at 7:24 pm to
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Not all ATF agents are bad people, they basically follow orders from the top.


Yikes
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32905 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 7:35 pm to
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You are a true loser if you are a cop or simp for cops

FIFY
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
1811 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 7:38 pm to
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I do, he's a good man. He's was a fire investigator for the ATF and he just retired. He hates the current administration, and is a huge red pilled American

I seriously question that he’s good or red pilled. I can understand someone good accidentally ending up working for the other agencies, but the ATF? Their entire existence hinges upon infringing on our constitutional rights. That’s no accident. At least, it is hard for me to believe it isn’t.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19585 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 7:49 pm to
An old friend and co-worker (RIP) did some video work for ATF. He was a very mild mannered guy, but called them "jack booted thugs."
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63584 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 8:01 pm to
I had a friend who was an agent for Homeland Security, but that’s it. He
did get to do some cool stuff involving arms dealers and human trafficking.
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10570 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 8:11 pm to
I worked for Fed Gov (DOD role) and was miserable because of the waste, laziness, and lack of work ethic. I put my notice in, did an exit interview with the Commander, and told him exactly how much of a disaster the framework was. He was candid and told me it was out of his hands. Left the gravy train and never looked back. Many of the people within the federal government are dregs of society.
This post was edited on 4/9/24 at 8:13 pm
Posted by TigerB8
End Communism
Member since Oct 2003
9338 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 8:11 pm to
If someone obscures my cameras on my home, I’m taking that as a threat to me and my family’s safety. It’s pretty infuriating to think these people think they are better than the rest of honest tax payers. I don’t care to dive into the details of this person’s history. I’ve seen this govt do enough terrible things to honest citizens and then praise criminals and illegals so it’s all a blur.
This post was edited on 4/9/24 at 9:08 pm
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
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Posted on 4/9/24 at 8:22 pm to
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Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72127 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 8:27 pm to
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kicking in a door


Which video was this in?
Posted by BearCrocs
Member since Aug 2013
6460 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 8:31 pm to
Somewhat off topic here, but I have fairly close buddies who are active high ranking and low ranking military and all of them are impartial as to whoever the current administration is. They are programmed to take orders, regardless of those orders.

Many think that if their were ever be internal conflict, our own military wouldn't fire on it's own.. but you're 100% wrong. They will without hesitation.

The government pays their bills. The government provides.
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 4/9/24 at 8:32 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/21/24 at 11:08 am
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72127 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 8:34 pm to
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I took some liberty there. The wife said they kicked in the door next.


Gotcha. I thought I might have missed one.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7564 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 8:52 pm to
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I hate the ATF but isnt that also a live feed?



we had ATF agents raid a fraternity party in college.
a little over half a dozen agents, plus local PD for a god damn college party.

and they wrote 1 ticket. for underage drinking.

not sure who called them, but I have a feeling they were expecting more than one ticket.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422891 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 8:59 pm to
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“Now, as for the search, nothing (credible, at least) has indicated this was a no knock warrant or anything that extreme.

a. I said that prior to this story.

b. There still isn't evidence this was a no knock warrant. From the article in OP:

quote:

“At this stage there is no publicly available evidence showing whether agents knocked on the door or announced their presence, adequately identifying themselves,” Cummins told KATV. “Bryan’s wife Maer only heard loud banging immediately followed by the crash of the front door being forced open.”


Even the attorney isn't claiming it was a "no knock", and the attorney states they don't have evidence that the ATF properly identified themselves (which implies a regular search warrant).
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