re: The Tucker interview was my first long form exposure to Putin

Just finished this am - I am super impressed with the intellect and command of the facts Putin showed - I am not even close to being able to validate any of the facts he related, but I am pretty good at detecting bullshite and deception - I detected none of that.

I would not challenge a single fact he stated without having studied long and hard with the documentation - which I am not going to do. If there are any factual misrepresentation, surely there will be some documentable rebuttal.

This was a sobering revelation - I had always labeled Putin as just another thug who muscled his way to the top - he is far from that. He is a force to be reckoned with.

And I have no doubt that our own CIA/FBI are incorrigibly corrupted.

awaiting for a rebuttal of any of it.

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I'd bet he told NATO to cool their expansion into corrupt Ukraine

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and I agree with this - this 'war' was totally avoidable - but the MIC needed the $$$ and the Biden mob needed their filthy lucre.

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I would say Trump is a good match, and not because he's "my guy".

Trump's opponents forget or ignore his business acumen, and that makes him a wildcard.

Let's not forget, in America the best and brightest don't go into politics, they go into the business world instead. Trump was successful in that arena. Go back and look at any of his pre-politics and TV persona interviews, anyone who met him thought he was very, very smart. He's what normally pulls the strings from the shadows, not front and center in the spotlight.

Similarly, I would think Musk, Zuckerberg, Cuban etc could hold their own. I may not agree with or want them, but there's no denying those guys are sharp as hell.

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excellent analysis -

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post graduate world history lesson

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Putin delivered an alternate universe
diatribe so this board is all about it.
Its where many of you live.

If you would of asked him if they invaded Poland in 1939 (with Germany) he would of blamed us for that too
Idol worship is very sad

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If you would of asked him if they invaded Poland in 1939 (with Germany) he would of blamed us for that too
Idol worship is very sad

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You must have missed the part in the interview when he explained the russian rationale for invading Poland.

There are several moments in the interview where he admits Russia was wrong or made bad decisions in the past.

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I am super impressed with the intellect and command of the facts Putin showed - I am not even close to being able to validate any of the facts he related

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So you don’t actually know if the “facts” he said are actually facts but because he sounded confident about them you believe him.


Interesting.

Do you happen to be MAGA?

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You don't have to have a political leaning, to appreciate the contrast between Putin and Biden. Putin is formidable, and was quite comfortable with a 2 hr interview. He was composed and in control, and did a good job even using a translator, of keeping that interview moving as he wanted.

Tucker was definitely cautious (who wouldn't be while sitting in the Kremlin talking to Putin today ?), but he did try to prompt him a few times on things:
* Wha... this history is interesting, but how is this relevant?
* You say you're religious, how do you reconcile this war with being a Christian?
* Why do YOU think the US doesn't trust Russia?
* So can Hungary claim half of Ukraine, since you're using that reasoning to do what you're doing?
* the WSJ reporter isn't a secret agent, let him go- and he pushed that a couple times.

That would have sidetracked and derailed Biden. He couldn't even get through a 10 minute announcement and Q&A session without messing up- got legit angry and defensive at the female reporter's question, said the president of Mexico was involved in the Israel/Hamas conflict, and multiple times he just kinda mumbled and repeated the end of the sentences like he was trying to stay on track. Even given the benefit of the doubt, it's clear Biden is FUZZY now. And it's painful to watch.

"I wish our guy could do that", is not saying you prefer his policies, it's acknowledging the obvious. We all would prefer our President was a man who can think on his feet and hold his own in a debate.

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You must have missed the part in the interview when he explained the russian rationale for invading Poland.

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He either didn't watch it or is being disingenuous.

Russian Man bad!


Curious how you were programmed for years to believe that Putin was your enemy because he installed the man you hate as President. Then that programming against Putin ultimately became critical to securing your unwavering support for funneling billions of tax payer dollars into a historically corrupt nation.

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with a PhD in economics

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Also worth noting that a PhD in Russia is much different than the “diploma mill” PhD’s handed out like candy here in the US.