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Posted on 1/13/24 at 12:05 pm to Handsome Pete
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my point is that Lincoln Riley and BK would've been on this list
Posted on 1/13/24 at 12:10 pm to ApexTiger
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could be, but I've read that Washington was loaded up with seniors this year...and all of them recruited by Peterson
On the other side, Oregon's recruiting classes have been ranked higher than Washington's every year.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 12:16 pm to ApexTiger
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could be, but I've read that Washington was loaded up with seniors this year...and all of them recruited by Peterson
Well, the coach before him won 4 games with them. He took them to an 11-2 record in his first season and went 14-1 in his second season while playing for a championship. So he went 25-3 with that group and won 21 straight before the championship game.
He also coached Penix as an OC and as a HC. Not to mention his overall head coaching record is pretty insane. Either this guy is the luckiest sumbitch alive or he's doing something right.
Washington fans are very upset he left. I think that tells the tale.
This post was edited on 1/13/24 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 1/13/24 at 12:41 pm to mattz1122
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Dan Lanning’s resume includes two whole seasons as a HC.
And those saying that Lanning was a hotter commodity than DeBoer is one of the dumbest takes in awhile. Especially considering he was 0-3 against DeBoer with the superior talent advantage.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 1:03 pm to BradBallard
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And those saying that Lanning was a hotter commodity than DeBoer is one of the dumbest takes in awhile. Especially considering he was 0-3 against DeBoer with the superior talent advantage.
I really don't know whether Lanning or Deboer is a better coach, or a better hire. Lanning has legit SEC experience that Kalen does not and is an elite recruiter, those things mean something, but who knows. I'm not even saying there was a better hire "available".
What I do know is that if Deboer had lost one game to Lanning, a game Washington barely won, he would not be the Alabama head coach right now. Does anyone believe Deboer gets the job is he's sitting home watching the playoffs? No. That, my friend, is a fragile resume.
I keep comparing this hire to Lincoln Riley and Brian Kelly. That's because they both missed the playoffs the seasons they were hired yet it was still a coup when USC and LSU stole them away from their blue-blood programs - because they had rock solid resumes. That's what I expected Alabama to go after.
This post was edited on 1/13/24 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 1/13/24 at 1:09 pm to Handsome Pete
Your posts reek of hopium
Posted on 1/13/24 at 1:11 pm to NIH
DeBoer is already fricking up, it's only day one and he lost his best assistant coach and best recruiter to his biggest rival....
Day One, Strike One.
Day One, Strike One.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 1:19 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Saban also recommended Houston Nutt as his replacement at LSU! LOL
Posted on 1/13/24 at 1:52 pm to Handsome Pete
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What I do know is that if Deboer had lost one game to Lanning, a game Washington barely won, he would not be the Alabama head coach right now.
If BK had one more loss in his lone playoff year at ND, would he be the LSU coach?
Had Urban Meyer lost a game at Utah in 2004, would he have been hired at UF?
Posted on 1/13/24 at 2:01 pm to BradBallard
Just heard in the press conference that DeBoer was 10-1 vs. the top 25 at Washington. That is insanely impressive. The guy can flat out coach.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 2:05 pm to Handsome Pete
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Deboer has such a weak résumé that if he had lost just one more game this last season, he would've never made even the list of possibles for Alabama, not to mention got the job.
so had he had 2 losses he wouldn't be mentioned, but Dan Lanning with 2 losses was?
Posted on 1/13/24 at 2:21 pm to Nutriaitch
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so had he had 2 losses he wouldn't be mentioned, but Dan Lanning with 2 losses was?
I think clearly he was, whether you agree or not. That's not the point of my OP though.
You tell me - if DeBoer lost the Oregon game and was sitting at home during the playoffs, is he still Alabama's coach today? Can you answer that honestly?
Posted on 1/13/24 at 2:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
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If BK had one more loss in his lone playoff year at ND, would he be the LSU coach?
Notre Dame made the playoff in 2018 and 2020, dummy. They also made the BCS Championship game in 2013. This is why your opinions have no value on this board.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 2:47 pm to Handsome Pete
2 years at this level... we shall see
Posted on 1/13/24 at 4:46 pm to lsupride87
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That’s a tier 3 SEC school and he is consistently getting them top 12. Why the hell they didn’t immediately go there makes no sense
It’s because Kiffin is benefiting from a schedule that includes programs that are rebuilding, or in the case of aTm, imploding.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 4:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
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If BK had one more loss in his lone playoff year at ND, would he be the LSU coach
Lol, one playoff appearance huh?
Posted on 1/13/24 at 5:43 pm to Handsome Pete
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You tell me - if DeBoer lost the Oregon game and was sitting at home during the playoffs, is he still Alabama's coach today? Can you answer that honestly?
honestly? I have no clue.
Dan Lanning is 0-3 against DeBoer, and people here were acting like Lanning would be a home run hire.
So we're talking about guys coaching in the same games. The one who has lost every single one is considered a great candidate. The one that won all of them is considered a let down.
And people are saying had he lost he wouldn't even be mentioned. When that guy that did actually lose was mentioned before the one that won.
Both guys have been in the Power 5 for the exact same amount of time.
Dan Lanning took over a team that won 10 games the year before he got there. A team that finished in the top 5 five times since 2010. the last 4 coaches to be at Oregon more than 1 season has at least 1 season with 11+ wins.
Lanning has them right where they typically always are.
Kalen DeBoer took over a team that won 4 games. You have to go all the way back to 1984 to get to five top 5 finishes for Washington.
in 2 seasons, DeBoer has as many 11 win seasons as the previous six Washington coaches have COMBINED.
Other than the Covid season when the played only 4 games, you have to go back 20 years to find a year that Washington lost fewer than 3 games (Oregon has 10 such seasons). DeBoer has done it twice. In 2 seasons.
So why is the guy that has his team roughly where his team has pretty much always been since before any of his players were born considered a great hire.
But the guy that has his team grossly outperforming their historic norms considered a let down?
Posted on 1/13/24 at 5:49 pm to clamdip
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37-9 if you don't count his NAIA record with Sioux Falls.
It’s a fine record without being propped up by club football
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