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re: Why DeBoer is a sketchy hire
Posted on 1/12/24 at 11:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 1/12/24 at 11:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
Both DeBoer and Lanning are far more risky hires than I thought Alabama would make. Now, they might have hit the jackpot, or maybe they just hired the offensive version of Dave Aranda.
I really expected them to either take Dabo from Clemson, or hire from within and try to continue Saban's program for 4-5 years; and THEN take a chance on some new blood if that didn't work.
I mean, Saban retired after yet another playoff run, he didn't crash and burn. I'm shocked that they'd go outside to replace him. DeBoer, if he's going to succeed, will have to make changes to get things the way he wants. And there's really no real reason Alabama needs to change things right now.
I really expected them to either take Dabo from Clemson, or hire from within and try to continue Saban's program for 4-5 years; and THEN take a chance on some new blood if that didn't work.
I mean, Saban retired after yet another playoff run, he didn't crash and burn. I'm shocked that they'd go outside to replace him. DeBoer, if he's going to succeed, will have to make changes to get things the way he wants. And there's really no real reason Alabama needs to change things right now.
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Posted on 1/12/24 at 11:13 pm to Handsome Pete
It’s a low floor / high ceiling hire. He is obviously a great coach or he wouldn’t have the record that he has. What would concern me if I was a bama fan is he has not shown to be a very recruiter and is going to be in an area he has never coached in before. His teams the past 2 seasons have been bolstered by having an elite qb playing a bad schedule.
Now that doesn’t mean he is a bad coach and I’m sure having that A on his shirts will help in recruiting, but his level of completion is going WAY up. Their schedule next year is scary for a 1st year HC who will be facing almost impossible expectations.
Now that doesn’t mean he is a bad coach and I’m sure having that A on his shirts will help in recruiting, but his level of completion is going WAY up. Their schedule next year is scary for a 1st year HC who will be facing almost impossible expectations.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 11:14 pm to Scoob
I don't think Dabo would leave.
Lanning apparently said no.
Sark apparently said no.
Kirby clearly isn't going back.
Rees and Locksley were given token interviews/interest out of respect.
I don't know who else was out there.
Lanning apparently said no.
Sark apparently said no.
Kirby clearly isn't going back.
Rees and Locksley were given token interviews/interest out of respect.
I don't know who else was out there.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 11:24 pm to Adam Banks
Penix's best year at IU was in 2019 under DeBoer, and Peyton Ramsey had similar success. Both had almost the exact same completion rate and ypa.
Biggest difference was Penix got to play the easy schedule
Ramsey had to play Michigan, @PSU, and OSU.
Penix played against NW, MD, RUTG, MSU (who was not good), EIU, and Ball State. Rutgers, MSU, and Ball State were his big games.
Biggest difference was Penix got to play the easy schedule
Ramsey had to play Michigan, @PSU, and OSU.
Penix played against NW, MD, RUTG, MSU (who was not good), EIU, and Ball State. Rutgers, MSU, and Ball State were his big games.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 11:33 pm to 0
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It’s a low floor / high ceiling hire
You get it.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 11:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:LSU, after going .500 for a pair of seasons, pulled Kelly from Notre Dame.
I don't think Dabo would leave.
Lanning apparently said no.
Sark apparently said no.
Kirby clearly isn't going back.
Rees and Locksley were given token interviews/interest out of respect.
I don't know who else was out there.
USC, which has been out of the running for quite a while, took Riley from Oklahoma.
We're talking ALABAMA here; there's really nobody that they should consider off-limits. You identify the guy you want, make the call, and stay on him until he says yes.
I think they panicked/went lazy, and went after DeBoer because he made the playoff championship. He did that so he must be good, right? I think that's all the thought that went into it.
I just think the guy is about to hear "... but that's not the way we do it here" a bunch of times. He's not going to be able to implement his own system there.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 11:50 pm to Scoob
There just aren't that many elite options left
Dabo
Kirby
Lanning
Sark
Then the guys who aren't leaving for another college job
Kelly
Harbaugh
Riley
Day
Who is left?
Franklin (lol)
DeBoer
Kiffin (not gonna happen)
Fickell? I imagine an insane buyout and being similar to DeBoer with less success
A coordinator?
Dabo
Kirby
Lanning
Sark
Then the guys who aren't leaving for another college job
Kelly
Harbaugh
Riley
Day
Who is left?
Franklin (lol)
DeBoer
Kiffin (not gonna happen)
Fickell? I imagine an insane buyout and being similar to DeBoer with less success
A coordinator?
Posted on 1/13/24 at 12:03 am to mattz1122
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Dan Lanning’s resume includes two whole seasons as a HC.
And 3 losses to DeBoer.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 12:04 am to Handsome Pete
Can we keep the retard posts to the SECR? No objective person thinks DeBoer was a bad hire.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 12:06 am to Adam Banks
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He threw for 1645 yards in 6 games
Wow.
He averaged 274 yards a game passing.
He was shite talked by LSU fans leading up to the Heisman announcement and now he's a generational talent.
Incredible.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 12:48 am to Handsome Pete
Look, another post that reeks of fear.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 1:54 am to mattz1122
quote:
Are you under the impression that he was coaching a Washington level team vs. NAIA opponents?
Well, he was playing against pac 12 teams so yeah, he was
Posted on 1/13/24 at 3:24 am to Handsome Pete
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You can't say the same about Saban or Lincoln Riley
He beat Riley, Sark and Lanning
This post was edited on 1/13/24 at 3:46 am
Posted on 1/13/24 at 3:28 am to Oneforthemoney
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Well, he was playing against pac 12 teams so yeah, he was
Beat Oregon 3 times
Beat Texas twice
Beat USC
This post was edited on 1/13/24 at 3:31 am
Posted on 1/13/24 at 3:54 am to Handsome Pete
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Lanning was a national championship DC in the SEC. He is also known as a fantastic recuiter, which DeBoer emphatically is not.
Yet he's 3-0 against him
Posted on 1/13/24 at 4:03 am to lsutiger90
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And a QB that looked pretty bad when he played a B10 D in the final game!
Not many QBs did very well vs Mich Defense. Their front is legit
Posted on 1/13/24 at 6:34 am to Handsome Pete
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And national champion Georgia DC. That means way more than a bunch of NAIA wins and you know it.
Deboer is Lanning’s daddy
Posted on 1/13/24 at 6:38 am to mattz1122
All these comments about Saban still being in the building and looking over his shoulder remind me that Saban will be guiding new coach on things like recruiting, staffing, etc. Saban still gonna be involved at BAMA.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 6:45 am to abellsujr
You've had so much movement of late of top tier coaches that DeBoer was maybe the only choice. Still think it is a mistake for him. He could probably stay in Seattle for another 15 years.
In Tuscaloosa......maybe 5. Most who follow GOATs end up having a hard time coming close to duplicating
In Tuscaloosa......maybe 5. Most who follow GOATs end up having a hard time coming close to duplicating
Posted on 1/13/24 at 7:09 am to SlowFlowPro
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Based on what? Certainly not his performance at Indiana Yeah he had injuries, but his last 2 years at Indiana he couldn't even hit a 60% completion rate or 8 ypa
Anyone watching could see he had the tools and elite athleticism. He just didn’t know what to do with them yet.
He and Daniels were a lot alike. They were allowed to just go play based on their sheer talent initially. Then they started developing in year one at UW and LSU, but there were noticeable holes. Daniels with confidence throwing deep and into tight windows and Penix with touch and control. Then both exploded this year.
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