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Why DeBoer is a sketchy hire

Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:03 pm
Posted by Handsome Pete
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:03 pm
Deboer has such a weak résumé that if he had lost just one more game this last season, he would've never made even the list of possibles for Alabama, not to mention got the job. And he had several close games. That's how fragile his résumé is. You can't say the same about Saban or Lincoln Riley or Brian Kelly when they were hired.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52751 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:05 pm to
Career 104-12 record with a recent NCG loss is a weak resume
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:06 pm to
If Saban had a vagina he’d be the greatest female coach ever in the history of college football
Posted by The Eric
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
20982 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:08 pm to
You counting NAIA wins?
Posted by Handsome Pete
Member since Apr 2019
1287 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:09 pm to
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Career 104-12 record with a recent NCG loss is a weak resume

You think I'm wrong? DeBoer loses to Oregon and Washington is not in playoff - is he still considered for Alabama job? Be honest.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35254 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:09 pm to
Would you have hired Dabo instead?

Y’all act like they had lots of choices

If it’s not an A+ hire it’s at least an A-, right?
Posted by Handsome Pete
Member since Apr 2019
1287 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:10 pm to
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If it’s not an A+ hire it’s at least an A-, right?


Once Lanning was off the table, he was probably the best they could get. Still, not impressive by Alabama standards.


ETA There was a dearth of obvious candidates. Nick Saban always waits too long to quit, as LSU well knows. Then again, we LSU fans didn't think BK was an option when he was hired. Program at Bama's level should've been able to steal a Ryan Day, Lanning, or maybe Daboll. Hell, I've got enough LSU PTSD to imagine a world where they poached BK from us!
This post was edited on 1/12/24 at 9:16 pm
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
8609 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:13 pm to
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Handsome Pete


Probably not even handsome.
Posted by boston vol
Lexington-Fayette, KY
Member since Sep 2015
5563 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:14 pm to
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Still, not impressive by Alabama standards.

Hires since Bear Bryant retired:
Ray Perkins
Bill Curry
Gene Stallings
Mike DuBose
Dennis Franchione
Mike Price
Mike Shula
Nick Saban

Outside of Saban, DeBoer has the best resume of all the other coaches that Alabama has hired the last 40 years.
Posted by Handsome Pete
Member since Apr 2019
1287 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:16 pm to
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Probably not even handsome.


Not even Pete.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52751 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:16 pm to
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Still, not impressive by Alabama standards.



Were you expecting them to hire Belichick?

Their hires before Saban were Mike Shula, Mike Price, Dennis Franchione, and Mike DuBose. Gene Stallings had a 27–45–1 career college record when Bama hired him.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35254 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:17 pm to
I mean, I guess

But was anyone going to be?

Lanning saying no (if that’s what actually happened) is a small blow when you can hire an A- guy like DeBoer. And I’ve seen debates saying lots of things.

But in reality Lanning , DeBoer, and Norvell were probably similar tier hires. So who was a better available choice?
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52751 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:20 pm to
Dan Lanning’s resume includes two whole seasons as a HC.
Posted by SaintInBham
Birmingham
Member since Sep 2015
856 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:20 pm to
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Career 104-12


Did you read the list of those 104 wins before you posted this?
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
10297 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:22 pm to
I think you are being a little too judgemental. DeBoer is a fantastic hire...of course I'm an LSU fan.
Posted by Handsome Pete
Member since Apr 2019
1287 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:22 pm to
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But in reality Lanning , DeBoer, and Norvell were probably similar tier hires. So who was a better available choice?


No one we know of, that's my point. Did we know Lincoln Riley was available when USC poached him? Did we know BK was an option when LSU stole him from a team in contention for the playoff? Those are the kind of hires I expected from Alabama.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26683 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:23 pm to
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You think I'm wrong? DeBoer loses to Oregon and Washington is not in playoff - is he still considered for Alabama job? Be honest.


Considering that Saban wanted to hire Ryan Grubb for OC last season and did a deep dive on the UW program, resulting in him being impressed with Deboer and thus recommending him for the job, I would say YES.
Posted by Brendoni
Oklahoma City, Ok
Member since Apr 2009
21283 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:24 pm to
He’s unproven as a coach and definitely as a recruiter. We’ll see how it goes. As an LSU fan I’m not concerned.
This post was edited on 1/13/24 at 5:13 pm
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52751 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:24 pm to
Are you under the impression that he was coaching a Washington level team vs. NAIA opponents?


Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31801 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:28 pm to
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Are you under the impression that he was coaching a Washington level team vs. NAIA opponents?



Might as well hire jt curtis
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