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re: Excluding home equity, the median 40-44 year old has a net worth of just $58,000

Posted on 1/8/24 at 6:49 pm to
Posted by NoSaint
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Posted on 1/8/24 at 6:49 pm to
The axis makes that a wild graph
Posted by stout
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Posted on 1/8/24 at 6:50 pm to
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Ok so excluding the single largest investment most people utilize, most people don’t have a lot of money.





Well, unless they choose to be homeless that investment is null
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 1/8/24 at 6:50 pm to
Why exclude home equity? That’s a pretty big wealth builder
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 1/8/24 at 6:50 pm to
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Excluding home equity
pretty big exclusion
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 1/8/24 at 6:50 pm to
And fed Gov will be flush with cash as they take 50% of the wealth currently held by middle class to upper middle class boomers.
Posted by WaydownSouth
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Posted on 1/8/24 at 6:51 pm to
Thankfully I can work until 85 in my career.

Have an 80 year old working a few days per month still for joy
Posted by stout
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Posted on 1/8/24 at 6:52 pm to
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pretty big exclusion





Why? It only matters if you can somehow downsize and/or get a cheaper house. Outside of that, it's pretty null unless you choose to be homeless or become a renter
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
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Posted on 1/8/24 at 6:52 pm to
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Have an 80 year old working a few days per month still for joy


Sounds miserable
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
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Posted on 1/8/24 at 6:55 pm to
If you can make 100 years old you’ll have 10 million, worth a shot.

Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 1/8/24 at 6:57 pm to
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the median 40-44 year old
The key word is "median."

The average would be much higher, probably in the range of a half million dollars or so. Maybe even $1,000,000.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 1/8/24 at 6:57 pm to
You can more easily borrow against equity than debt.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 1/8/24 at 7:02 pm to
The median matters more than the average in this case due to extremes on both sides. Wouldn't you agree?


I would also say there are more extreme cases on the upper end (a few billionaires in that age range) than on the lower end as there is no one billions in debt. I am sure the low end has billions worth of debt collectively but I am just not sure it outweighs the massive wealth of a few.
This post was edited on 1/8/24 at 7:04 pm
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 1/8/24 at 7:06 pm to
The second best decision* I’ve made in my life was over 30 years ago when I started my career I immediately started saving for retirement.

* the absolute best being marrying my wife almost 27 years ago.
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 1/8/24 at 7:06 pm to
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The median matters more than the average in this case due to extremes on both sides. Wouldn't you agree?

Not really when over 30% of the population is on some type of government assistance.

I also think it's silly to remove home equity from net worth just to make some type of "OMG!" point.

Why not remove stock and bond holdings, too?
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 1/8/24 at 7:08 pm to
I just checked, me and all my kids were around 90%, except one of the kids is close around 95%.

I’m not gonna have to eat bugs!

Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Posted on 1/8/24 at 7:10 pm to
Half of the people in this country are uneducated and/or completely incompetent with no drive or life plan.

I don’t look at the median American to judge myself.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 1/8/24 at 7:11 pm to
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I also think it's silly to remove home equity from net worth just to make some type of "OMG!" point.




You always accuse me of this. You need to grow the frick up and quit crying about my threads. It's gotten weird.

Also, it's just data and it proves that people in that age group haven't been very good at saving money despite being in the workforce for a few decades.

Also, home equity gives a false reality considering the insane rise in home values since 2020. Those values could also come crashing down if there is ever a correction.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 1/8/24 at 7:13 pm to
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If you can make 100 years old you’ll have 10 million, worth a shot.



That's not what that chart shows. It shows 40-44 year olds with $6.7+ million are the 1%
Posted by EmperorGout
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Posted on 1/8/24 at 7:13 pm to
If you exclude their most valuable asset most people don’t have a lot of money, earth shattering stuff
Posted by stout
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Posted on 1/8/24 at 7:15 pm to
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If you exclude their most valuable asset most people don’t have a lot of money, earth shattering stuff



If people sold that asset would they have to spend all of their equity from it to buy another house or just choose to be homeless?

What you miss is the data shows that people have zilch in savings and other assets.
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