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re: Excluding home equity, the median 40-44 year old has a net worth of just $58,000

Posted on 1/8/24 at 9:42 pm to
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
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Posted on 1/8/24 at 9:42 pm to
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Excluding home equity, the median 40-44 year old has a net worth of just $58,000


Don't really see why you would exclude home equity though. If I own a $1,000,000 home outright at 41 years old, but only have $58k to my name, I would still feel damn great
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/8/24 at 9:51 pm to
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Don't really see why you would exclude home equity though. If I own a $1,000,000 home outright at 41 years old, but only have $58k to my name, I would still feel damn great
Well, you'd be a terrible person whose only option was to be homeless...OR RENT.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
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Posted on 1/8/24 at 9:53 pm to
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If I own a $1,000,000 home outright at 41 years old, but only have $58k to my name, I would still feel damn great

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Well, you'd be a terrible person whose only option was to be homeless...

Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/8/24 at 9:59 pm to
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Don't really see why you would exclude home equity though. If I own a $1,000,000 home outright at 41 years old, but only have $58k to my name, I would still feel damn great


Yeah…that’s a stupid metric. The bulk of my net worth is in tax deferred retirement that I can’t easily access…just like RE equity.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
38917 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 10:07 pm to
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Why not remove stock and bond holdings, too?


I assume it's because they're liquid
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 1/8/24 at 10:09 pm to
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Rebel
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33438 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 10:28 pm to
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Well, you'd be a terrible person whose only option was to be homeless...
I was being sarcastic. Stout said that was your only options if you needed cash. (Renting is obviously off the table).
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
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Posted on 1/8/24 at 10:43 pm to
I mentioned renting, you dipshit.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
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Posted on 1/8/24 at 10:45 pm to
Big Scrub is big dumb.

Posted by stout
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Posted on 1/8/24 at 10:46 pm to
Correct
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 1/8/24 at 10:49 pm to
Washington Post has an article “Are You Rich?” with a calculator that allows input of any amount for net worth, along with age, marital status, and education.

When compared to the entire population, anyone with a couple of bucks is above average. But when compared to those similarly situated, (college grad, live with SO or spouse, certain age range, etc.) you get a more realistic view of where you stand.

I don’t make a ton but save a lot. My net worth is better than 95% of Americans, but better than just 75% of persons similarly situated.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33438 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 10:50 pm to
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I mentioned renting, you dipshit.
Yes, you always mention it like it's the plague, you frick stick.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33438 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 10:50 pm to
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Big Scrub is big dumb.
I'm not the one pretending an asset isn't an asset.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/8/24 at 10:51 pm to
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Correct
Notice how you never reply to actual questions/points. You just go for ad hom.
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167294 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 10:54 pm to
No. I just ignore you by choice because your counterpoints are usually pretty dumb yet you are very arrogant.

You seriously asked if that calculator removed home equity but left mortgage liability.

It's crazy how dumb you are yet think you are the smartest person here.

This post was edited on 1/8/24 at 10:54 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33438 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 11:00 pm to
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You seriously asked if that calculator removed home equity but left mortgage liability.
Yes, I did. You just trust anything you find online?

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It's crazy how dumb you are yet think you are the smartest person here.
It's dumb to verify methodology? It's dumb to question your relentless assertion that renting is catastrophic? It's dumb to push back on your relentless housing doomsdayism? How are those foreclosures looking? When's the crash coming? After the 500th or the 501st thread?
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75219 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 11:02 pm to
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relentless housing doomsdayism


Who knows. He may be right, he may be wrong. I think the overall consensus on here is the amount of negativity that he posts. It’s really over the top and quite honestly, it’s weird.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33438 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 11:53 pm to
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Who knows. He may be right, he may be wrong. I think the overall consensus on here is the amount of negativity that he posts. It’s really over the top and quite honestly, it’s weird.
Exactly. There's plenty of rational points supporting different predictive views on the housing market.

But this person is CLEARLY hoping for something bad to happen.
Posted by LSU7096
Houston
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:06 am to
86% and surprised I am that high
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:29 am to
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Don't really see why you would exclude home equity though. If I own a $1,000,000 home outright at 41 years old, but only have $58k to my name, I would still feel damn great


This types of this are usually silly because financial health is more complex and nuanced than they make them.

Take two 40yos living in the same town doing the same high paying job but one has paid off a $2mm home and has $58k as an emergency fund and the other rents has $2mm in equities and $58k in an emergency fund. Their actually financial health would require a deep dive but the guy with $2mm in equity is not significantly worse off than the guy with $2mm in equities. Long term I would say they are in very similar situations in the short term the calculus becomes more complex.
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