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re: Israel–Hamas War Discussion Thread: News Links On First Page
Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:02 am to Stidham8
Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:02 am to Stidham8
The bright side is now the naive and ignorant can see clearly how Hamas lies and manipulates public opinion.
The willfully ignorant won’t care of course but frick them.
The willfully ignorant won’t care of course but frick them.
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Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:05 am to WhereisAtlanta
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100 years ago the "Israelis" were soviet citizens in Eastern Europe and the "Palestinians" who are the descendants of the Israelites were doing just fine in their homeland albeit under British occupation.
Wtf
You’re an idiot. 
Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:09 am to WhereisAtlanta
quote:so all of this, which is ridiculous but lets humor it and act like its true, excuses the stunt hamas pulled a week and a half ago?
100 years ago the "Israelis" were soviet citizens in Eastern Europe and the "Palestinians" who are the descendants of the Israelites were doing just fine in their homeland albeit under British occupation.
Now explain how we got from there to here in a manner that illustrates how exactly they are wrong for wanting their land back and the predominate Russian occupiers to go home and contrast that with your feelings about the struggle in Ukraine.
Why do you defend one group of Russian occupiers and attack the other?
Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:09 am to Bunk Moreland
Pretty amazing how many people believe something that was just reported, even if by big outlets. Doesn't matter if it's pro-israel or pro-hamas.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:10 am to WhereisAtlanta
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100 years ago the "Israelis" were soviet citizens in Eastern Europe and the "Palestinians" who are the descendants of the Israelites were doing just fine in their homeland albeit under British occupation.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:11 am to Jester
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1. Jihadi rocket went jihadi on a parking lot
2. Casualties are much, much lower than 500.
Last night I was thinking either they had to have had hundreds of people sleeping in the lot along with additional hundreds sleeping on top of each other in rooms with windows right up against lot, or it has to be less than 500 deaths (of course some were pushing it to 800 last night).
Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:13 am to Old Money
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Pretty amazing how many people believe something that was just reported, even if by big outlets. Doesn't matter if it's pro-israel or pro-hamas.
Scary honestly. War is filled with chaos and it’s hard to always tell what’s really going on because of it. Yet as soon as something happens reports will come out and people will automatically believe it 100% true and get riled up based off of it
Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:14 am to Fun Bunch
This whole situation has demonstrated to me that our society could not withstand a major global conflict that required our military to engage in an all-out, full-scale war. Some of the current members of Congress would have been demanding a ceasefire on D-Day.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:26 am to Roll Tide Ravens
lol some members of Congress would be insinuating the third reich were white hats trying to save us from the Shriner Illuminati or some shite
Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:53 am to Havoc
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Wtf You’re an idiot.
That's a slap in the face to idiots
Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:55 am to Chicken
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why is there a teargas involved, and why are they throwing rocks if it is in Gaza?
Has to be the West Bank.
There were protests bordering on riot in the West Bank yesterday after the hospital news broke.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:56 am to Roll Tide Ravens
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This whole situation has demonstrated to me that our society could not withstand a major global conflict that required our military to engage in an all-out, full-scale war. Some of the current members of Congress would have been demanding a ceasefire on D-Day.
I agree our society has put too much emphasis on feelings and inclusion. In a total war for survival you have to be willing to exterminate the enemy and its people if necessary. Our armed forces can’t be shackled and would need to become the angel of death.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:58 am to Roll Tide Ravens
Great opening half by Biden's speech writers but what a horrible second half. "If" Hamas steals the aid? The freaking control it the second it enters Gaza! Then sending more US taxpayer money to Gaza and the West Bank? WTF! Send that directly to Israel in the form of munitions. He is sleepwalking our country back into another Middle Eastern conflict. (Which will almost certainly be as disastrous as his Afghanistan pullout.) The best thing he did in the 2nd half was not attempting/butchering the Hebrew language.
As a country we should not be straddling any lines or drawing red lines (which is essentially what the aid theft comment did). We are with Israel against anyone who seeks to harm them. No US boots on the ground but I'm all for air support similar to the mid 90s over Bosnia-Herzegovina. When Hezbollah comes down from the north, take over air defense for the Israelis so they can go take out Iran's uranium sites*. That (and any specialists trying to rescue US hostages) should be the extent of US military personnel involved.
I've always had a lot of interest in World War 1 and this is giving off serious vibes of it. Russia/China/Iran have come out as the new Axis of Evil while it's the US/Israel/NATO as the main allied countries. I do wonder how US hostages held by Axis factors into all of this (frankly letting it factor in at all is giving those monsters what they want).
*I would imagine conveying this type of support/plan directly would likely be one of the main reasons for Biden to take an 11 hour flight into an active war zone in order to meet with Netanyahu for a few hours.
As a country we should not be straddling any lines or drawing red lines (which is essentially what the aid theft comment did). We are with Israel against anyone who seeks to harm them. No US boots on the ground but I'm all for air support similar to the mid 90s over Bosnia-Herzegovina. When Hezbollah comes down from the north, take over air defense for the Israelis so they can go take out Iran's uranium sites*. That (and any specialists trying to rescue US hostages) should be the extent of US military personnel involved.
I've always had a lot of interest in World War 1 and this is giving off serious vibes of it. Russia/China/Iran have come out as the new Axis of Evil while it's the US/Israel/NATO as the main allied countries. I do wonder how US hostages held by Axis factors into all of this (frankly letting it factor in at all is giving those monsters what they want).
*I would imagine conveying this type of support/plan directly would likely be one of the main reasons for Biden to take an 11 hour flight into an active war zone in order to meet with Netanyahu for a few hours.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:59 am to bayoudude
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Our armed forces can’t be shackled and would need to become the angel of death.
I thought Bob Oppenheimer was the Angel of death.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 10:03 am to teke184
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I thought Bob Oppenheimer was the Angel of death
"I am become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds"
Posted on 10/18/23 at 10:06 am to IAmNERD
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OSINTtechnical @Osinttechnical · 3h
Of note, casualty-wise, I can confirm a number, probably 30-50, IDPs (internally displaced persons) were sheltering on the lawn in the courtyard of the Ahli Hospital in the red highlighted area. They took the worst of the blast, many of their bodies were badly burnt.
Far short of 500 or more people being killed in the incident as claimed by Hamas.
This post was edited on 10/18/23 at 10:08 am
Posted on 10/18/23 at 10:09 am to BayouBengal51
Hamas has 500 bodies they can get to that site for a photo op
Posted on 10/18/23 at 10:10 am to WhereisAtlanta
quote:
100 years ago the "Israelis" were soviet citizens in Eastern Europe and the "Palestinians" who are the descendants of the Israelites were doing just fine in their homeland albeit under British occupation.
Now explain how we got from there to here in a manner that illustrates how exactly they are wrong for wanting their land back and the predominate Russian occupiers to go home and contrast that with your feelings about the struggle in Ukraine.
Why do you defend one group of Russian occupiers and attack the other?
quote:
WhereisAtlanta
You might wanna sit this one out
Posted on 10/18/23 at 10:11 am to IAmNERD
@NSC_Spox (Official White House National Security Council account)
Xwitter
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While we continue to collect information, our current assessment, based on analysis of overhead imagery, intercepts and open source information, is that Israel is not responsible for the explosion at the hospital in Gaza yesterday.
Xwitter
This post was edited on 10/18/23 at 10:12 am
Posted on 10/18/23 at 10:14 am to LegendInMyMind
Per everyone, the Saudis have called on their people to leave Lebanon and the Beirut area immediately.
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