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re: Israel–Hamas War Discussion Thread: News Links On First Page
Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:09 pm to Bigfishchoupique
Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:09 pm to Bigfishchoupique
quote:even IF it isn't snatched up by Hamas and Islamic Jihad (which it will be) this is bad strategy.
Biden said Wednesday the United States is providing $100 million in humanitarian assistance for Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank. “This funding will help support over a million displaced and conflict-affected people with clean water, food, hygiene support, medical care, and other essential needs,” a White House statement said.
The people of Gaza have to reject/disavow, at a minimum, Hamas as a condition of victory. If slaughtering Jewish civilians nets them $100 mmUSD then that is going to be seen as Hamas "earning" that money for them. That's the best case scenario.
If Hamas steals it, which they will, and kills more Jews - not to mention Americans and American allies - with that money we are literally funding terrorism (not that they haven't been already via Iran).
And let's not forget, these shite stains of human beings are holding American hostages. Those hostages are hidden in the postage stamp size are of Gaza. Is there a plethora of Gazan citizens coming forward with sightings or at lease reports of Hamas comings and goings? Supply deliveries far exceeding what's needed for the average household? Too many vehicles as compared to what's thought to be in that particular structure? No? Then don't reward those fricks.
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Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:13 pm to teke184
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Where is China going to hit?
Taiwan.
The potato won't do a darn thing (it's probably part of his paid contract with the CCP).
Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:14 pm to I20goon
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with that money we are literally funding terrorism
Couple that with all the armament equipment and vehicles we left for Al Qaeda in Afghanistan one could form an opinion that the current U.S. govt. administration is the de-facto terrorist Santa Claus
Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:16 pm to Chicken
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don't think the US or it's allies have the stomach for WW3...don't see it happening.
The US has never had the stomach for world wars… WW2 had been raging for years in east Asia and Europe… US didn’t declare war until attacked… and the Us had to be dragged kicking and screaming into WW1… thing was damn near over.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:16 pm to AmishSamurai
I laid out earlier that then doing it in the way they want to do it (taking the island intact) is NOT going to work short of completely subverting all defenses on the island to open the gates like in Troy.
Taiwan has seen what happened with Hong Kong and will know that resistance won’t end any worse than surrender.
Taiwan has seen what happened with Hong Kong and will know that resistance won’t end any worse than surrender.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:35 pm to I20goon
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even IF it isn't snatched up by Hamas and Islamic Jihad (which it will be) this is bad strategy.
The UN will have a hand in overseeing it. The UN still does not recognize or label Hamas as a terrorist organization. The UN, nor the US or its allies, really vet the people working for them within Gaza. They have no way of knowing if they directly employ Hamas militants/terrorists to distribute aid.
Remember this when people argue that we must get humanitarian relief/aid to the people of Gaza. Remind people of this when they say that, because Hamas 100% controls the distribution of that aid. You can also throw in the fact that Hamas was given tens of millions of dollars in aid after 2014 earmarked to restore electricity to Gaza. The grid is still nonexistent, more than 50% reliant upon Israel, and is little more than a hodgepodge of patchworked solar panels, generators, and one poorly-maintained power plant. Those tens or hundreds of millions of dollars went directly to Hamas coffers and their leader's pockets.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:37 pm to lowspark12
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Us had to be dragged kicking and screaming into WW1… thing was damn near over.
I think in hindsight we can say it was almost over, but Russia left for their revolution, so the eastern front was essentially cancelled and allowed Germany to consolidate its forces. After the Somme and Verdun campaigns of 1916, the British and French were left pretty demoralized and starting to lose support at home. Would they still have won without US intervention? Perhaps, but the added boost of the fresh troops really pushed the Allies over the top in closing out the war. Even with the addition of the US, the war still dragged on for about another year.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 1:19 pm to LegendInMyMind
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Per everyone, the Saudis have called on their people to leave Lebanon and the Beirut area immediately.
I take this to mean at minimum Hezbollah is going to formally enter the war
Posted on 10/18/23 at 1:20 pm to Chicken
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It's feels like Iran orchestrated the timing of this knowing that the world was tied up with the Russia/Ukraine war...I would not be surprised to see China soon take advantage of this in some way.
This is my expectation. My question is when? Do they let this fester a while like Ukraine festered and sucked up western aid before Israel popped off or do they pick up the pace before the west can replenish defense stocks and really get manufacturing back up?
Posted on 10/18/23 at 1:22 pm to DabosDynasty
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I take this to mean at minimum Hezbollah is going to formally enter the war
Agreed
Posted on 10/18/23 at 1:39 pm to klrstix
I searched the embassy account to verify they really did this, they did
Posted on 10/18/23 at 2:08 pm to DabosDynasty
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I searched the embassy account to verify they really did this, they did
Okay, for someone who hasn't seen the Matrix or whatever this is from, what is it supposed to mean? That the US was red pilled?
This post was edited on 10/18/23 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 10/18/23 at 2:10 pm to TheFonz
This is Neo telling the agents “bring it”.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 2:14 pm to TheFonz
quote:it means, "Bring It"
what is it supposed to mean?
Posted on 10/18/23 at 2:15 pm to TheFonz
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Okay, for someone who hasn't seen the Matrix or whatever this is from, what is it supposed to mean? That the US was red pilled?
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This is Neo telling the agents “bring it”.
Ie: if you feeling froggy jump mfer
Posted on 10/18/23 at 2:27 pm to WhereisAtlanta
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100 years ago the "Israelis" were soviet citizens in Eastern Europe and the "Palestinians" who are the descendants of the Israelites were doing just fine in their homeland albeit under British occupation.
Now explain how we got from there to here in a manner that illustrates how exactly they are wrong for wanting their land back and the predominate Russian occupiers to go home and contrast that with your feelings about the struggle in Ukraine.
Why do you defend one group of Russian occupiers and attack the other?
Well, first of all, those eastern European countries weren't Soviet until after WW2 and even after they were they still weren't 'Russians'. I'm not sure how this even became a coherent point to you but I am sure you need to sit this thread out and spend some time catching yourself up with the 20th century.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 2:38 pm to northshorebamaman
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This post was edited on 10/18/23 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 10/18/23 at 2:48 pm to Saskwatch
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one could form an opinion that the current U.S. govt. administration is the de-facto terrorist Santa Claus
Damn...that's spot on. Bravo.
I hate my fricking government.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 2:49 pm to salty1
@sentdefender
Xwitter
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IDF Homefront Command has announced that they are now beginning an Operation to Evacuate all Towns and Cities in Northern Israel that are within 5km from the Border with Lebanon, they had previously announced a Plan to Evacuate only up to 2km but this has now been Increased.
Xwitter
Posted on 10/18/23 at 2:53 pm to LegendInMyMind
@mccaffreyr3
Xwitter
@MarkWarner
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Bomb damage assessment is fairly straightforward for military ordnance. There is zero probability that an IDF 500 lb bomb caused the damage seen in these videos. Zero. Also from video extremely hard to believe this caused hundreds of casualties.
Xwitter
@MarkWarner
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The Senate Intelligence Committee reviewed intelligence related to the attack on al-Ahli hospital in Gaza. Based on this information, we feel confident that the explosion was the result of a failed rocket launch by militant terrorists and not the result of an Israeli airstrike.
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