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Kevin McCarthy: "We let government grow, but at a slower rate"

Posted on 5/31/23 at 4:45 am
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
8912 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 4:45 am
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This clip of KM is why I have considered we might just be better off with Democrats in power, if we are forced to being led by the likes of McCarthy and McConnell. The Democrats want to inject you with cyanide, while the Republicans want to sedate you with morphine.

Is it better to "crash and burn" with the Democrats or smoothly descend into your death with Republicans?

Republicans = managed decline
This post was edited on 5/31/23 at 4:50 am
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39650 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 4:57 am to
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burger bearcat

Your expectations are simply unrealistic. It would be like saying the QB of your favorite team should have just jumped over the defense. That foolishness ignores that it is impossible.

McCarthy and the Republicans did not get much for their threat to not fund the government, but that’s because they didn’t have much power.

Are you familiar with BATNA? It’s the Best Alternative To a Negotiated Agreement. The Republicans’ BATNA was that the Government runs out of funding and the President has to shut down parts of the government. He would choose things that hurt the most people, and he would blame Republicans. This has been proven to work again and again. The Republicans would lose control of the House in the next election.

Does that sound effective to you? So they had to have a negotiated agreement, just as Biden did. BATNA wasn’t great for him, either. The Republicans got a decent deal.

If you want more austere fiscal policy then you must elect those type of Republicans. Trump damn sure isn’t one of them. Like Bill Clinton, Trump benefited by the heavy lifting done by the previous (two) administrations.
Posted by Gifman
by the mountains
Member since Jan 2021
9518 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 5:29 am to
“Trust MCarthy”
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9648 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 6:12 am to
Trump endorsed McCarthy for Speaker and begged House Reps to support him.

Don't you ever question thr God Emperor.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80224 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 6:15 am to
How do they possibly get this done in time? 6/1 was the deadline.

Its going to the House floor today which will drag out all day if people want it to. Then it will have to get through the Senate by EOD tomorrow and signed by Potato.

McCarthy is going to lose the speakership and its going to be hilarious.
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
11835 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 6:17 am to
What an idiot. The Government needs to be slashed back to 1980s size or smaller.

Posted by Macfly
BR & DS
Member since Jan 2016
8135 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 6:19 am to
Why are our politicians so out of touch with the electorate? They are nothing more than a self-serving club feeding off lobbyists and taxpayers.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22424 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 7:36 am to
Trumps boy!!!!


Posted by sonuvapitcher
Member since Aug 2008
1728 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 7:41 am to
McCarthy: I shite my drawers, but I can just turn them inside out and keep wearing them.
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 7:46 am to
quote:

Is it better to "crash and burn" with the Democrats or smoothly descend into your death with Republicans?


It's literally one or the other. There is no escape.

I'll take the smooth descent personally
Posted by Knartfocker
Member since Jun 2020
1345 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 7:46 am to
Republicans are too chickenshit to actually use power. Why do we keep voting for them?
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
15476 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 8:08 am to
The 537 buffoons that run this country are ALL compromised and getting rich on your nickel!
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14260 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 8:15 am to
There are two realities about the debt ceiling debate everyone keeps missing.

1) If it were to go long enough to disrupt bond payments, it would create a massive global economic disruption. This isn’t a loan you refuse to pay to China- these are US bonds held by just about every entity in the world with money.

2) The Dems would lay this at he republicans feet and with the help of the MSM it would be a Republican problem.

The time to deal with spending is when the money is spent not when the bill is due. We’ve seen this happen a dozen times.
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3154 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 8:45 am to
It will take a near-complete economic collapse before any meaningful change occurs.

Posted by weptiger
Georgia
Member since Feb 2007
10363 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 8:56 am to
Why does a government that already wastes our money need to grow? How is that an acceptable position for anyone claiming to be a conservative, especially one in a “leadership” role.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26934 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:17 am to
Any politician that thinks government needs to grow is a clown. Even minimal shrinkage is not good enough.

We need massive slicing of government at all levels.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96421 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 3:26 pm to
“We’re letting the cancer grow, but only at a much smaller rate! frick having it shrink or be excised!”
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112601 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 3:34 pm to
Yeah, let's crash and burn with Dems. Then they can install the right form of communism and we won't have to worry about elections anymore.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19691 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 4:22 pm to
Less that half of the Federal Government is anything approaching essential. We should just see a hiring freeze and then shift around employees to fill essential gaps from non-essential positions.

NY's last Republican Governor did that and it trimmed the intractable and un-trimmable without a lot of drama.
Posted by Don Quixote
Member since May 2023
1662 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 4:25 pm to
frick that, BURN IT DOWN
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