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Sunken submarine with two N.O. natives aboard found off Japan nearly 80 years later
Posted on 3/13/23 at 9:41 am
Posted on 3/13/23 at 9:41 am
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One had been a star high school athlete who enlisted in the Navy. The other was a recent Tulane graduate in mechanical engineering.
Both were New Orleans natives who found themselves aboard the same doomed submarine along with 83 other sailors in the Pacific during World War II, the exact location of their final resting place unclear.
Until now. Nearly 80 years later, a retired Japanese scientist using an unmanned underwater vehicle has located the remains of the USS Albacore — the submarine that Nicholas John Cado and John Francis Fortier Jr. were aboard when it was sunk by a mine.
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The U.S. Navy confirmed the discovery in February and notified the sailors' survivors, bringing to a close a mystery that began on Nov. 7, 1944. That was when the Albacore was off the coast of Japan, looking for shipping targets.
Both New Orleans sailors were on their first cruise aboard the submarine when it went down in nearly 800 feet of water a few miles east of the Cape Esan lighthouse on the southeastern peninsula of Hokkaido.
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Seaman First Class Nicholas John Cado was only 20 when the submarine was sunk. He had graduated in May 1943 from L.H. Marrero High School, where he was a football and basketball star.

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John Francis Fortier Jr., who went by the nickname Buddy, had graduated from Tulane University in May 1943 with a degree in mechanical engineering and immediately went to Annapolis for training, being commissioned in August as an ensign.
He graduated from submarine school at New London, Conn., in April 1944 and ended up on the Albacore for his first assignment in October of that year as an assistant engineering and commissary officer.

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Navy records show that the Albacore was among the most successful U.S. submarines during the war, conducting 11 patrols and credited with 10 confirmed and three possible enemy vessel sinkings. Six of the 10 confirmed sinkings were combat ships.
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On its last mission, the Albacore left Pearl Harbor on Oct. 24, 1944 with instructions to lay off the coast of Japan to look for shipping targets, but with a warning that mines were likely sown in the Tsugaru Strait between Honshu – the main island of Japan – and Hokkaido to its north.
According to Japanese records, a submarine assumed to be the Albacore struck a mine off the Hokkaido coast, near the strait, on Nov. 7.

Posted on 3/13/23 at 9:43 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
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Navy records show that the Albacore was among the most successful U.S. submarines during the war, conducting 11 patrols and credited with 10 confirmed and three possible enemy vessel sinkings. Six of the 10 confirmed sinkings were combat ships.
Like a boss

RIP to these young men. Now they can have a proper burial

Posted on 3/13/23 at 9:47 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
quote:Marrero was probably a wonderful place in 43'
graduated in May 1943 from L.H. Marrero High School,
Rest in Peace and be glad you aren't here to see what your alma mater has become

Posted on 3/13/23 at 9:48 am to SuperSaint
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be glad you aren't here to see what your alma mater has become
My high school has gotten shittier since I graduated. Can’t say I’ve even wished I were dead rather than see it’s decline.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 9:49 am to idlewatcher
The Greatest Generation.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 9:49 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Greatest Generation
According to Japanese records, a submarine assumed to be the Albacore struck a mine off the Hokkaido coast, near the strait, on Nov. 7.
“A Japanese patrol boat witnessed the explosion of a submerged submarine and saw a great deal of heavy oil, cork, bedding, and food supplies rise to the surface,” a Navy summary said.

According to Japanese records, a submarine assumed to be the Albacore struck a mine off the Hokkaido coast, near the strait, on Nov. 7.
“A Japanese patrol boat witnessed the explosion of a submerged submarine and saw a great deal of heavy oil, cork, bedding, and food supplies rise to the surface,” a Navy summary said.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 9:50 am to AlextheBodacious
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My high school has gotten shittier since I graduated. Can’t say I’ve even wished I were dead rather than see it’s decline.

Posted on 3/13/23 at 9:50 am to idlewatcher
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“Most importantly, the wreck represents the final resting place of sailors that gave their life in defense of the nation and should be respected by all parties as a war grave,” the command said in a news release announcing the discovery confirmation.
Not going to be a reburial that's their final resting place. R.I.P

Posted on 3/13/23 at 9:51 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Being on a submarine during wartime sounds like an absolutely horrific experience.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 9:56 am to TorchtheFlyingTiger
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Not going to be a reburial that's their final resting place. R.I.P
Yep.
Long customary for any sailors who die at sea.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 9:57 am to idlewatcher
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Now they can have a proper burial
They died and were buried with their shipmates on 07NOV44. Someday the sea will give up her dead, until then let them RIP.

Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:01 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
RIP. Brave men taken far before their time by war madness.
Going through the straits between Hokkaido and Honshu was especially dangerous business. There was no room for error that far north, no Allied presence of any kind, as they were completely isolated, no help of support or rescue, and they were unbelievably brave by definition.
Going through the straits between Hokkaido and Honshu was especially dangerous business. There was no room for error that far north, no Allied presence of any kind, as they were completely isolated, no help of support or rescue, and they were unbelievably brave by definition.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:04 am to VADawg
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Being on a submarine during wartime sounds like an absolutely horrific experience.
In WWII, the US Navy lost over 52 submarines with roughly 1 out of 5 submariners lost.
Anybody get a chance watch the series Hell Below, I highly recommend it especially the episode on the USS Tang. Incredible accomplishments and their CO was indeed the real deal.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:15 am to Kino74
This sounds like something I gotta check out
Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:48 am to VADawg
Whats the strategy if you manage to survive the initial blast here?
Youre 800 feet from the surface of an ocean, in the middle of enemy territory of a warzone, no telling how far from shore. Even if you somehow manage to get to the surface, you have no allies near you to rescue you. You gonna tread water and swim to the coast of japan after swimming up 800 feet? if you somehow make it to shore, they will almost certainly give you one to the dome on sight, if youre lucky. If youre not, they imprison you and torture you, then kill you. Or, if you somehow manage to survive all that and not get imprisoned, you just gonna catch a flight back from japan? frick that
Youre 800 feet from the surface of an ocean, in the middle of enemy territory of a warzone, no telling how far from shore. Even if you somehow manage to get to the surface, you have no allies near you to rescue you. You gonna tread water and swim to the coast of japan after swimming up 800 feet? if you somehow make it to shore, they will almost certainly give you one to the dome on sight, if youre lucky. If youre not, they imprison you and torture you, then kill you. Or, if you somehow manage to survive all that and not get imprisoned, you just gonna catch a flight back from japan? frick that
Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:55 am to Mark Makers
well, I can tell you that the writer's knowledge of the military was lacking...calling a Naval officer a First Lieutenant....more like a Lieutenant, junior grade
that particular USS Albacore was a unique submarine, very large for that time period and designed as a minelayer.
that particular USS Albacore was a unique submarine, very large for that time period and designed as a minelayer.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:00 am to spaceranger
They sank in 800' of water. They weren't submerged at 800'. I'm pretty sure they couldn't reach that depth without the hull collapsing from the pressure.
Maximum dive depth was closer to 300', I believe, in 1944.
Maximum dive depth was closer to 300', I believe, in 1944.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:01 am to SuperSaint
quote:What is LH Marrero High School now?
what your alma mater has become
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:04 am to vl100butch
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lacking...calling a Naval officer a First Lieutenant....more like a Lieutenant, junior grade
It annoys me as well. It's not that difficult to confirm the ranks of military services. No 1LTs in the Navy.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:22 am to Kino74
I believe the submarine experience at the WWII Museum in NOLA involves the USS Tang. Pretty cool
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