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re: Sunken submarine with two N.O. natives aboard found off Japan nearly 80 years later
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:27 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:27 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
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Six of the 10 confirmed sinkings were combat ships.
I wonder what the other four were.
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Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:28 am to spaceranger
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You gonna tread water and swim to the coast of japan after swimming up 800 feet?
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:28 am to Mstate
Highest casualty rate of any US forces in WWII. Even over the 8th Air Force.
US subs were responsible for over 50% of all tonnage that was sunk in the Pacific. That’s an absolutely insane statistic for such a small force
US subs were responsible for over 50% of all tonnage that was sunk in the Pacific. That’s an absolutely insane statistic for such a small force
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:37 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
If any of you get the chance, tour the submarine USS Drum and the battleship USS Alabama in Mobile Bay.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:39 am to 0x15E
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I wonder what the other four were.
Merchant vessels most likely, carrying war material. Possibly troop ships. Both kinds are legitimate targets.
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tour the submarine USS Drum
I have, and I can assure you that there were no submariners who were 6'3" during World War II.
This post was edited on 3/13/23 at 11:41 am
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:42 am to 0x15E
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I wonder what the other four were
Merchant ships. It was total war, the only thing off limits were hospital ships.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:44 am to spaceranger
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Whats the strategy if you manage to survive the initial blast here?
There's a reason you don't hear a whole lot of stories from guys who survived being attacked in a submarine.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:48 am to Tusksup
The Japanese moved POWs in merchies, no red cross markings.
Louisiana native Rev. Joseph Verbis Lafleur was one such. He was captured in early December in the Philippines and kept as a POW. In 1944, with the U.S. approaching, the Japanese loaded hundreds of POWs in the cargo holds of merchies and tried to get them to Japan.
Without markings, they were fair game, attacked and sunk by U.S. forces who had no idea what they were and what they contained. Terrible.
Fr. Lafleur's cause for sainthood was opened a year or two ago.
Louisiana native Rev. Joseph Verbis Lafleur was one such. He was captured in early December in the Philippines and kept as a POW. In 1944, with the U.S. approaching, the Japanese loaded hundreds of POWs in the cargo holds of merchies and tried to get them to Japan.
Without markings, they were fair game, attacked and sunk by U.S. forces who had no idea what they were and what they contained. Terrible.
Fr. Lafleur's cause for sainthood was opened a year or two ago.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:49 am to TheFonz
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have, and I can assure you that there were no submariners who were 6'3" during World War II
One of my buddies was 6’6” on our sub. This was a LA class also… a lot bigger. He regretted getting that height waiver every day of his service
He’d have some fresh wound on his forehead daily from running into various valve stems, lighting fixtures, panels etc
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:50 am to supatigah
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swimming up 800 feet?
Easy to do you just gotta fart on the way up
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:51 am to TheFonz
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Merchant vessels most likely, carrying war material. Possibly troop ships. Both kinds are legitimate targets
Japan used to use merchant ships as POW transports without signaling to the enemy that POWs were on the ship (crammed into the cargo holds by the thousands). They were called hell ships. US subs used to sink these frequently thinking they were sinking merchant ships while having no idea they were killing hundreds or thousands of Allied POWs. I'd imagine at least one of the other sinkings was related to this, and it makes sense to not want to publicize the accidental killing of hundreds of your own POWs.
Of all of the cruel things the Japs did to POWs, that is up there with the worst. They were fricking barbaric.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 12:00 pm to VADawg
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There's a reason you don't hear a whole lot of stories from guys who survived being attacked in a submarine.
Right? I guess my question was, you doing all that to try and make it or just ending it yourself?
Posted on 3/13/23 at 12:03 pm to spaceranger
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Right? I guess my question was, you doing all that to try and make it or just ending it yourself?
I don't think you're going to have much of a say in the matter. You're either going to drown to death, or die when you end up so far under the ocean surface the pressure kills you.
Actually the worst case scenario is to be like the three guys who were in the forward hold of the West Virginia during Pearl Harbor and lived for 20ish days after it sank to the bottom.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 12:05 pm to VADawg
Japanese are asshoe. They also killed american prisoners and ate them(chi chi jima). 
This post was edited on 3/13/23 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 3/13/23 at 12:51 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
Great story. Glad they were located. If you enjoy submarine information, Admiral Flukey’s book Thunder Below is very good.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 12:54 pm to geauxpurple
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What is LH Marrero High School now?
I would assume it’s in Marrero so probably John Ehret or Higgins
Posted on 3/13/23 at 12:55 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
I wonder what their bodies looked like all that time later
Posted on 3/13/23 at 5:32 pm to R11
I'm sure the local crab population ate well for awhile.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 5:38 pm to Tusksup
You're such a weirdo.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 5:47 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
Have any of you guys served on a sub? I couldn't do it, hell I was too claustrophobic to complete a closed MRI. No way I could live in one of those things for such long stretches of times. I have a lot of respect for those sailors!! 
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