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re: Oregon Gov. Kate Brown commutes sentences of all death row inmates
Posted on 12/14/22 at 9:14 am to texasmason
Posted on 12/14/22 at 9:14 am to texasmason
Ex-Gov Kate Brown is a nasty one. If she isn't a true blue 100% marxist actively working to destroy America, I would be very surprised.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 9:16 am to texasmason
then actively fights to take away people's ability to defend themselves from murderers like these
glad i don't live in oregon, hopefully the idaho movement succeeds
glad i don't live in oregon, hopefully the idaho movement succeeds
Posted on 12/14/22 at 9:16 am to texasmason
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"I have long believed that justice is not advanced by taking a life, and the state should not be in the business of executing people — even if a terrible crime placed them in prison,"
Because you are out of step with the entire history of justice systems from the Code of Hammurabi until the recent progressive past.
Every single one of you reading this knows that a child rapist and murderer must be killed in order for justice to be served. Anything else is progressive navel gazing and forgets the primary purpose of any justice system: maintaining the monopoly on violence to stop your populace from waging blood feuds.
The only way to remind progressive governments of why the death penalty exists is for people to engage in vigilante justice. Let them see what it looks like when no crime is deemed too heinous by the state.
This post was edited on 12/14/22 at 9:22 am
Posted on 12/14/22 at 9:20 am to DirtyDawg
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Also, the pro-life contingent around here is only pro-life until the fetus is born. They don't give a shite beyond that.
You don't understand the difference between protecting an innocent unborn fetus that can't defend itself - vs. an adult that chose a life of cold blooded murder and crime?
Posted on 12/14/22 at 9:27 am to wileyjones
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Spitting in the face of every DA, judge, and jury member who worked on these cases, not to mention the victims
Oregon hasn’t performed an execution in 25 years. The justice system failed those people long ago.
She’s grandstanding, and purposely creating a political divide on her way out the door. She cares so much about this issue, but she chose to ignore it for eight years?
She could have sold it better to the public, but she chose the more caustic route. Those killers wouldn’t have been executed anyway.
Claim the strained judicial system is wasting a lot time and resources on death sentences and appeals that are mostly symbolic. More people have supported the move, but she’s only seeking the support from a small circle of progressive allies.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 9:27 am to DirtyDawg
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Also, the pro-life contingent around here is only pro-life until the fetus is born. They don't give a shite beyond that.
Big difference between killing an innocent and someone that freely chose to take innocent lives. They made a choice, and trust me if they were convicted and sentenced to death, especially in Oregon, it had to be something very heinous or they took multiple lives. So don’t come here and try to spin this pro life bs. Have a clue….
This post was edited on 12/14/22 at 9:29 am
Posted on 12/14/22 at 9:28 am to DirtyDawg
quote:Just a lazy and intellectually inept argument against the death penalty.
the pro-life contingent around here is only pro-life until the fetus is born.
My biggest problem with the death penalty is how corrupt or incompetent LEO can be and how the jury system is far from perfect. Because of this, innocent people are executed by the government. That bothers me.
However, where guilt is certain and the crime heinous, there remains a place for the death penalty, imo.
This post was edited on 12/14/22 at 9:30 am
Posted on 12/14/22 at 9:31 am to texasmason
Considering the number of murders even Oregon has, having only 17 inmates on desth row is already virtually saying the State doesn't believe in executions.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 9:32 am to texasmason
this is probably saving taxpayer money with the amount spent on all the appeals
Posted on 12/14/22 at 9:33 am to Smeg
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You don't understand the difference between protecting an innocent unborn fetus that can't defend itself - vs. an adult that chose a life of cold blooded murder and crime?
We all know there are zero innocent people sitting on death row.
The dichotomous nature of American political belief never ceases to astound me. The same group that doesn’t trust the government to administer the tax code or manage a budget trusts them to only execute the right people.
This post was edited on 12/14/22 at 9:34 am
Posted on 12/14/22 at 9:33 am to texasmason
Oregon hasn't executed an inmate since 1997, so I mean, ok fine.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 9:34 am to texasmason
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"I have long believed that justice is not advanced by taking a life,
But it does guarantee that this particular criminal will not ever take another life.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 9:35 am to texasmason
If she truly believes this why did she not do it the first month she was in office instead of the last month.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 9:35 am to JohnnyKilroy
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I’m pro life so I support this.
doubtful. You likely are for murdering innocent babies, but are against killing convicted murderers. So you make this trite quip, trying to be edgy…without realizing what a silly statement you’re making.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 9:38 am to Townedrunkard
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Big difference between killing an innocent and someone that freely chose to take innocent lives. They made a choice, and trust me if they were convicted and sentenced to death, especially in Oregon, it had to be something very heinous or they took multiple lives.
and yet they had an innocent man on death row until last year
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I am not against the death penalty in theory but in practice, all it does is cost more money due to appeals and we have killed innocent people.
This post was edited on 12/14/22 at 9:40 am
Posted on 12/14/22 at 9:40 am to LSUBoo
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Never forget.
Imagine having that as the 'leader' of your state.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 9:45 am to The Third Leg
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The dichotomous nature of American political belief never ceases to astound me. The same group that doesn’t trust the government to administer the tax code or manage a budget trusts them to only execute the right people.
These people were not found guilty by the government. They were found guilty by a jury of their peers. Do you not understand how the justice system works?
Posted on 12/14/22 at 9:48 am to Toroballistic
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