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Did the human error Buzz Aldrin committed during Apollo 11 prevent him from flying again?

Posted on 7/27/22 at 4:46 pm
Posted by euphemus
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 4:46 pm
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Armstrong politely didn't mention the "human error" was Buzz Aldrin. Aldrin later admitted leaving the tracking radar on. He was scared they may not be able to find Mike Collins after they left the moon, so at the last minute, he decided to leave the radar unit on, instead of follow procedure. He didn't know the computer didn't have the capacity to track the moon and Collins at the same time. Amazing that Aldrin did this... If they had aborted the mission because of the alarms, you would have to speculate that Aldrin would have never flown again. Come to think about it, he didn't.

The Real Story Behind the Apollo 11 Computer Error | WSJ
Posted by keakar
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 4:50 pm to
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Did the human error Buzz Aldrin committed during Apollo 11 prevent him from flying again?


possibly, back then they didnt have any patience for guys who dont follow procedure by the book without fail.

im sure it was a black mark on his record but most likely not something that would be spoken about or known beyond the head decision makers
Posted by Tigers0891
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 4:52 pm to
Considering most of the people that built the rocket and ship and everything else probably couldn't boil themselves an egg, I'll give the man a pass.
Posted by NOLAVOL16
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 4:53 pm to
Neither did Armstrong or Collins. How do you top being on Apollo 11? The only moon lander I can think of who had a long astronaut career afterwards is John Young.
Posted by Koach K
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 5:00 pm to
Come on man. Kubrick writes better copy than this.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 5:09 pm to
You actually believe Buzz Aldrin is a human?
Posted by EA6B
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 5:55 pm to
The mathematics that made orbital rendezvous possible were developed by Aldrin, and were the subject of his Doctoral Dissertation at MIT several years before he was a astronaut, and played a large part in him being selected as a astronaut. There was probably no one else in the NASA scientific community at the time that understood the challenge of orbital rendezvous better than Aldrin. That knowledge probably influenced his decision to leave the radar on.
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 5:56 pm to
Most of the guys that went to the moon didn’t fly again because what were you going to do to top that.
Posted by VeniVidiVici
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 6:09 pm to
Never happened

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Posted by Undertow
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 6:16 pm to
If true it would be just as much of a failure of the people who were training Aldrin. Seems like an important thing to discuss.
Posted by biohzrd
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 6:19 pm to
Maybe it was that they had just accomplished something that seemed impossible to begin with, and he didn’t want to leave anyone behind.
Posted by LoneStar23
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 6:20 pm to
The recording studio cut his contract
Posted by efrad
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 6:33 pm to
quote:

Armstrong politely didn't mention the "human error" was Buzz Aldrin. Aldrin later admitted leaving the tracking radar on. He was scared they may not be able to find Mike Collins after they left the moon, so at the last minute, he decided to leave the radar unit on, instead of follow procedure. He didn't know the computer didn't have the capacity to track the moon and Collins at the same time. Amazing that Aldrin did this... If they had aborted the mission because of the alarms, you would have to speculate that Aldrin would have never flown again. Come to think about it, he didn't.



Where is this quote from?

I searched for it and only this thread came up on Google.

And it's not in that video.

eta: Nevermind, it's just a random comment on the youtube video
This post was edited on 7/27/22 at 6:37 pm
Posted by DesScorp
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 6:36 pm to
I thought you were calling Buzz “The Human Error”. It’s a great insult, actually.
Posted by Traveler
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 6:58 pm to
An interesting story of Buzz's solution to fix a broken toggle on the circuit breaker that energized the power to the ascent engine needed to lift them off the surface of the moon.
Sometimes a simple solution is the best fix for a potentially complex problem.

Link to Buzz quick fix
Posted by SantaFe
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 7:01 pm to
Buzz Aldrin was the first astronaut to successfully demonstrate that an astronaut could do mechanical work outside a spacecraft in space. He did this on Gemini 12.This was important because NASA needed astronauts who could work in a vacuum such as on the Moon. He also took the first space selfie.



NASA needed astronauts who could solve problems in space in mere seconds that would kill the average person. While on the Moon preparing to lift off Buzz noticed that the switch to ignite the liftoff rocket had been broken off, probably from one of their spacesuits. No problem, Buzz used part of an ink pen to make a switch with.
After returning from the Moon Buzz was lost. After all the parades what does an astronaut do? Armstrong taught at a university. Buzz became an alcoholic and was a used car salesman for a while.
John Young was the astronaut's astronaut. He flew in Gemini, walked on the Moon, and flew the space shuttle.
Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 7:19 pm to
Apollo 11 was pretty much a drop mike moment for that crew (Collins was offered command of Apollo 17 but declined). Aldrin was one of the best and smartest astronauts NASA had. He wouldn’t have been grounded.
Posted by rooster108bm
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 7:46 pm to
Buzz would kick your arse for asking youtube
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 10:15 pm to
"1202 Alarm...."
Posted by HerkFlyer
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Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 11:37 pm to
I'm shocked they had a radar capable of getting a skin paint.

Figured the only radar they would've had would have been downward pointing for the purpose of landing.


Curious why procedure would have him turn it off. Guess NASA was worried about it sterilizing Astronauts in front of the LM.

ETA: I'm a dumbass. It makes sense they would have some sort of tracking radar. It's not like you're going to take off from the moon and make a visual re-join.
This post was edited on 7/27/22 at 11:50 pm
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