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re: Change my mind each major decision made past 20 years has been wrong for college athletics
Posted on 7/7/22 at 9:03 pm to WestCoastAg
Posted on 7/7/22 at 9:03 pm to WestCoastAg
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In 2008, A&M had 4 big 12 games that were not shown on TV. That is absolutely insane now, but it was common back then
The last pay-per-view conference game I remember USC having was 05.
It was against Vandy.
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Posted on 7/7/22 at 9:08 pm to Chad504boy
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Getting rid of BcS was bad
The BCS was lucky there was a clear 1 and 2 almost every season.
Just recently we've had a few seasons where 3 teams had a rightful claim to a 1 vs 2 championship game.
2019
LSU 13-0
Ohio State 13-0
Clemson 13-0
2018
Alabama 13-0
Clemson 13-0
Notre Dame 12-0
2017
Clemson 12-1
Oklahoma 12-1
Georgia 12-1
Alabama 11-1
Three years in a row of that would have broken college football. The BCS got really lucky every season that things worked themselves out.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 9:21 pm to Cockopotamus
south carolina had 2 ppv SEC games in 2008
Posted on 7/7/22 at 9:31 pm to The Boat
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The BCS was lucky there was a clear 1 and 2 almost every season.
You’re not considering the scheduling affects downstream of the change or any other variables for that matter. The outcomes would have been different in the BCS system.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 10:17 pm to grizzlylongcut
The powers / decision makers have obviously been motivated by near term financial incentives as everyone is saying. The problem is the feedback loop is so delayed that by the time the product declines and fans stop watching (which may or may not happen) it’s way too late to undo all the changes that have been made. There’s been no consideration for the long term effects on the sport and its integrity. We’ll see what we’re left with when the dust all settles in a few years
This post was edited on 7/7/22 at 10:25 pm
Posted on 7/8/22 at 5:36 am to grizzlylongcut
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Well no shite. Nobody knew how bad the playoff system would suck.
That’s not true. There were a few of us on here who were against a playoff.
Unlike College Baseball and Basketball,
Teams are limited to playing one game a week in football.
Unlike the nfl where you have 32 teams
In a clear conference and division setup to fairly place objective standards on qualifying for the playoffs, you’ve got 130 teams in conferences of varying strength, making the criteria for choosing the
Teams entirely subjective….well, except for historical bias and the all mighty dollar playing a role.
No, the BCS was not perfect it worked pretty well after 2005 when they finally settled
on a formula, with one notable exception.
Whatever problems the BCS had were only magnified by the CFP.
Posted on 7/8/22 at 5:37 am to The Boat
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The BCS got really lucky every season that things worked themselves out.
Now this is revisionist history. Almost every year of the BCS there was some controversy about 1 of the teams. You forget in years like 1998 2000 and 2001 because the lone undefeated team won. The BCS was designed for a year like 2005 where 1 of the top 2 would have been locked in the Rose Bowl
Posted on 7/8/22 at 7:55 am to grizzlylongcut
And it finally took NIL to crash the ship. We had a good run I guess.
Posted on 7/8/22 at 8:03 am to Giantkiller
Every decision has been made to help the top 1% get fatter and richer. That’s how it always goes. The other 99% be damned
NIL is no different. It helps the top 1% of athletes get richer, and is a net negative for the rest
NIL is no different. It helps the top 1% of athletes get richer, and is a net negative for the rest
This post was edited on 7/8/22 at 8:04 am
Posted on 7/8/22 at 8:12 am to grizzlylongcut
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The powers that be are turning it into everything I hate about pro sports.
Unlike pro sports, NILs are not sustainable for the sport. So I agree, college football is in big, big trouble.
Posted on 7/8/22 at 8:15 am to grizzlylongcut
There are a few teams that are absolutely okay with how this has turned out
One is the power in the B1G
One is the power in the SEC
One is the power in the ACC
You see a theme?
One is the power in the B1G
One is the power in the SEC
One is the power in the ACC
You see a theme?
Posted on 7/8/22 at 8:21 am to crewdepoo
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Allowing athletes to make money is the right thing to do.
So should high school athletes be paid to?
Posted on 7/8/22 at 8:22 am to SG_Geaux
if the generated billions of dollars in revenue? why not?
Posted on 7/8/22 at 8:42 am to grizzlylongcut
CFP was good.
They should’ve used BCS rankings instead of the committee though
They should’ve used BCS rankings instead of the committee though
Posted on 7/8/22 at 9:31 am to WestCoastAg
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In 2008, A&M had 4 big 12 games that were not shown on TV. That is absolutely insane now, but it was common back then That was objectively bad for the sport
What, that you couldn’t watch lower tier matchups? Y’all didn’t have AggieVision or something like that?
If your team or its opponent didn’t rate televised games, you should thank the powers that were for saving you from bad football
This post was edited on 7/8/22 at 9:35 am
Posted on 7/8/22 at 12:31 pm to H-Town Tiger
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You forget in years like 1998 2000 and 2001 because the lone undefeated team won.
I didn’t forget at all. For more than the second half of the BCS you had the one deserving non-SEC team vs an SEC team. Things worked themselves out nicely. 2018 and 2019 would have broken college football in the BCS system.
From 2005 to 2013 the BCS had two clear cut teams for 1 and 2. That’s a long streak of things working themselves out nicely for the BCS to make it look like a good system.
This post was edited on 7/8/22 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 7/8/22 at 12:33 pm to chalmetteowl
and now, it doesnt matter because every single game played at the fbs level has some way of viewing it live in a rather easy manner
again. that is objectively better for the sport
again. that is objectively better for the sport
Posted on 7/8/22 at 7:07 pm to lsusa
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No, the BCS was not perfect it worked pretty well after 2005
Worked better before 2005. In 2003 I had a printout on my refrigerator showing what games needed to go which way for each contender.
Giving the pollsters too much say made it a lot worse.
Posted on 7/8/22 at 7:21 pm to WestCoastAg
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if the generated billions of dollars in revenue? why not?
it blurs the lines, but revenue generation isn’t a binary thing. 99% of these kids generate revenue for the schools due to the brand of the universities. if a rogue 18-22 year old “minor league football” industry popped up, I think it’d fail immediately. the obsession comes from the inextricable links we have to the institution, not the players that come through in most cases. should they be compensated? of course. would Kyle Field be full if a group of walkons from Alabama came to play a group of walkons from A&M? maybe not this fall, or the next, but I think that’s the ultimate destination we’re headed for
Posted on 7/8/22 at 7:23 pm to Cosmo
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Its about creating more revenue. So it has been very successful
I could be wrong but it feels like they're definitely heading in the direction of killing the goose that lays the golden eggs.
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