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I'm tired of being skinny all my life; can you guys help me?
Posted on 6/16/22 at 11:30 pm
Posted on 6/16/22 at 11:30 pm
In my 30s. 5'10". I was 135 lbs when I graduated from college. These days I I fluctuate between 150-155 lbs soaking wet.
No matter how much weights I lift, I am just not able to put on any muscle or gain any weight. When I do try to eat a lot, which I hate by the way, I just end up putting weight in the wrong places around my waist and start getting man-boobs. I have a small frame to go with my tendency to be skinny fat to make matters worse - My wrist is 6.5", my biceps are only 14" and thighs are 22" despite training them. I have to be one of the hardest gainers out there. I'm just depressed and want to change the way I look.
If I wanted start juicing or taking steroids, where would I start and could I do it legally? I have heard about anabolic steroids, testosterone, PEDs and HGHs, but don't know the difference between them, and I have no idea how to start taking them or where to even get them from and how often to take them. Are there online resources for this?
If all these options are illegal, can you let me know of some alternate ways to gain mass? Is there a particular supplement or diet cheat code like chugging liquid eggs everyday that will help me gain the right kind of weight? Please help my skinny arse out baws. I just want to get bigger and look better.
No matter how much weights I lift, I am just not able to put on any muscle or gain any weight. When I do try to eat a lot, which I hate by the way, I just end up putting weight in the wrong places around my waist and start getting man-boobs. I have a small frame to go with my tendency to be skinny fat to make matters worse - My wrist is 6.5", my biceps are only 14" and thighs are 22" despite training them. I have to be one of the hardest gainers out there. I'm just depressed and want to change the way I look.
If I wanted start juicing or taking steroids, where would I start and could I do it legally? I have heard about anabolic steroids, testosterone, PEDs and HGHs, but don't know the difference between them, and I have no idea how to start taking them or where to even get them from and how often to take them. Are there online resources for this?
If all these options are illegal, can you let me know of some alternate ways to gain mass? Is there a particular supplement or diet cheat code like chugging liquid eggs everyday that will help me gain the right kind of weight? Please help my skinny arse out baws. I just want to get bigger and look better.
This post was edited on 6/17/22 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 6/17/22 at 6:55 am to hikingfan
Before doing anything I would go and get a full blood panel done. Find out what your numbers are. There could be an issue or issues.
Wanting to jump right into anabolics isn’t the answer. Eating everything in sight isn’t the answer. Doing 2 hour marathon workouts isn’t the answer. You aren’t going to do yourself any good doing any of those things. After you get blood work done come back and there are several people here who can help you.
Wanting to jump right into anabolics isn’t the answer. Eating everything in sight isn’t the answer. Doing 2 hour marathon workouts isn’t the answer. You aren’t going to do yourself any good doing any of those things. After you get blood work done come back and there are several people here who can help you.
This post was edited on 6/17/22 at 6:56 am
Posted on 6/17/22 at 7:11 am to hikingfan
What’s your training history?
Meaning what type exercise or workouts have you done in the past to try to put on muscle? For how long?
Meaning what type exercise or workouts have you done in the past to try to put on muscle? For how long?
Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:05 am to hikingfan
Post your workout schedule and routine for us
This post was edited on 6/17/22 at 8:05 am
Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:05 am to hikingfan
IMO nothing improves a mans physical stature more than squats, deadlifts and shoulder presses. focus only on these 3 big compound lifts for a few months and i dont see how you could not start to grow, and your diet will naturally increase
there are many youtube vids on these lifts. i recommend the Starting Strength vids
there are many youtube vids on these lifts. i recommend the Starting Strength vids
Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:24 am to hikingfan
quote:
No matter how much weights I lift, I am just not able to put on any muscle or gain any weight.
At least your issue is simple.
Food.
Gaining wait is all science and biology.
You must eat more calories than you burn.
You’re gaining wait in the wrong places because of the food you are eating. The cleaner you eat, the less fat you will gain. But you will. gain. fat. It’s part of bulking up and impossible to avoid.
Lifting weights and adequate protein will give you the results you want. Sounds like you’ll just have to eat your arse off.
Steroids are not the answer and have been proven to cause issues if you ever want to have children.
quote:
When I do try to eat a lot, which I hate by the way
Most people don’t like it and most people don’t enjoy the taste.
But EVERYONE loves the results.
We do it for the results.
This post was edited on 6/17/22 at 8:27 am
Posted on 6/17/22 at 9:02 am to hikingfan
I’ve watched people in the gym for over 30 years. They go in several times per week and lift and never change their body composition.
What they have in common is that they don’t bring focus or intensity. They don’t perform controlled or full range of motion sets, not do I see them actually train any set to even near failure. They also don’t train all body parts and work on new or different lifts. It’s always the same lifts, in the same order, with the same weight with no intensity. And, they tend to be skinny fat or just fat.
They show up, they lift, they leave and they don’t change. You may need to get a trainer or get someone in the gym that has muscles to review your routine and intensity.
What they have in common is that they don’t bring focus or intensity. They don’t perform controlled or full range of motion sets, not do I see them actually train any set to even near failure. They also don’t train all body parts and work on new or different lifts. It’s always the same lifts, in the same order, with the same weight with no intensity. And, they tend to be skinny fat or just fat.
They show up, they lift, they leave and they don’t change. You may need to get a trainer or get someone in the gym that has muscles to review your routine and intensity.
Posted on 6/17/22 at 9:03 am to hikingfan
I was in the same boat coming out of college. 6' about 150 to 155 on a good day. The only thing that has ever helped me gain weight/muscle was squats, deadlifts, compound lifts. I'm up to 180 now but that has been steady the last 5 or so years. Do a linear progression program like starting strength or 5x5 strong lifts that focus on the big lifts. Then move into a more complete program when you stall out a couple times.
Get a quality mass gainer/meal replacement like Axe and sledge Homemade Core MRP. Just add something like those in between your complete meals.
Get a quality mass gainer/meal replacement like Axe and sledge Homemade Core MRP. Just add something like those in between your complete meals.
Posted on 6/17/22 at 9:22 am to hikingfan
So assuming your diet isn't crazy bad when you "try to eat alot", and you actually go to the gym and lift heavy (for you) weights, I'd get your T checked and see if you need a boost.
Conversely, assuming your biologics are all relatively in line, make sure you are eating the right things. Eating a lot doesn't get you big. Eating a lot of protein and good carbs does. At 150 lbs, I'd probably shoot for 165-175g protein a day. Protein is the most important macro to hit, make sure you are getting protein; that's how muscle is built. Chicken, eggs, beef, no more than 2 shakes/day. Fish if you want but...bleh...
Then carbs, you should prob aim for around 300g carb. Oatmeal and rice and sweet potatoes. Beer and sugar aint the carbs you want. You can have those, but make sure you get the protein and 300g of good carbs in first.
Then get maybe 70-100g fat, little more flexibility there. I hit my fats with avocados and peanut butter almost exclusively (plus whatever fat is in my proteins).
Don't get your calories all at once; don't make an egg white, protein scoop, 2 cup oatmeal with 3 TBSP peanut butter shake in the morning that has half your macros in it and pretend you're half way done. Try to split it up into 5 meals a day if you can (I eat 6). I've found for most people it's easiest to do your three breakfast/lunch/dinner meals with two shakes/snack type meals between. There's your meal plan. Saying you hate to eat a lot makes me think you don't eat nearly enough, even when you do try to eat a lot, and that's probably what is limiting you.
In the gym, just make sure you're pushing yourself and lifting heavy for you 3-5x/week. If you aren't doing cardio, add that in to help your appetite but don't overdo it while you're trying to gain weight. 20 minutes of moderately increased heart rate 3x a week.
Assuming your test is fine, you do that for a month and I guarantee you'll start growing. At 5'10" you do that for a year and your baseline will be in the 170's no problem.
Conversely, assuming your biologics are all relatively in line, make sure you are eating the right things. Eating a lot doesn't get you big. Eating a lot of protein and good carbs does. At 150 lbs, I'd probably shoot for 165-175g protein a day. Protein is the most important macro to hit, make sure you are getting protein; that's how muscle is built. Chicken, eggs, beef, no more than 2 shakes/day. Fish if you want but...bleh...
Then carbs, you should prob aim for around 300g carb. Oatmeal and rice and sweet potatoes. Beer and sugar aint the carbs you want. You can have those, but make sure you get the protein and 300g of good carbs in first.
Then get maybe 70-100g fat, little more flexibility there. I hit my fats with avocados and peanut butter almost exclusively (plus whatever fat is in my proteins).
Don't get your calories all at once; don't make an egg white, protein scoop, 2 cup oatmeal with 3 TBSP peanut butter shake in the morning that has half your macros in it and pretend you're half way done. Try to split it up into 5 meals a day if you can (I eat 6). I've found for most people it's easiest to do your three breakfast/lunch/dinner meals with two shakes/snack type meals between. There's your meal plan. Saying you hate to eat a lot makes me think you don't eat nearly enough, even when you do try to eat a lot, and that's probably what is limiting you.
In the gym, just make sure you're pushing yourself and lifting heavy for you 3-5x/week. If you aren't doing cardio, add that in to help your appetite but don't overdo it while you're trying to gain weight. 20 minutes of moderately increased heart rate 3x a week.
Assuming your test is fine, you do that for a month and I guarantee you'll start growing. At 5'10" you do that for a year and your baseline will be in the 170's no problem.
Posted on 6/17/22 at 9:39 am to hikingfan
quote:You need:
When I do try to eat a lot, which I hate by the way
1. To eat protein rich foods
2. Follow a program (Starting Strength or if willing to pay, something like a Jeff Nippard beginner program)
If your girlfriend doesn't like you gaining a little fat, find a new one. There are tons out there and they all do the same thing.
Posted on 6/17/22 at 10:26 am to hikingfan
I was like you, 145-150 most of my adult life at 5'11. You need to get on a strength training program, and stick to it. If you have trouble eating, make sure you supplement your daily calorie intake with protein/mass gainer shakes. That's what it took for me to finally push past some weight plateaus.
Now I'm 180-185, and I'm the best shape of my life. You're 5'10, you can definitely handle an extra 30lbs on your frame without looking "fat".
Now I'm 180-185, and I'm the best shape of my life. You're 5'10, you can definitely handle an extra 30lbs on your frame without looking "fat".
This post was edited on 6/17/22 at 10:27 am
Posted on 6/17/22 at 12:45 pm to hikingfan
Man just take 500mg test cyp a week with 40mg dbol a day. You’ll gain some mass.
Posted on 6/17/22 at 2:49 pm to hikingfan
No to anabolics
Yes to 200g protein a day
Yes to a calorie surplus
Yes to a lbs of beef a day
Yes to a dozen eggs a day
For the mext 24 weeks, Follow the greyskull lp aesthetics template, eat in a calorie surplus meaning if you aren't gaining weight you have to eat more, eat 2ppg protein a day, track everything, sleep 8 hours a night
Do the above and I promise if you out effort into it, you will look like a different person in 6 months.
Yes to 200g protein a day
Yes to a calorie surplus
Yes to a lbs of beef a day
Yes to a dozen eggs a day
For the mext 24 weeks, Follow the greyskull lp aesthetics template, eat in a calorie surplus meaning if you aren't gaining weight you have to eat more, eat 2ppg protein a day, track everything, sleep 8 hours a night
Do the above and I promise if you out effort into it, you will look like a different person in 6 months.
Posted on 6/17/22 at 4:06 pm to hikingfan
I'm the same kinda mold as you. Skinny with a big mid section. I can gain 10lbs easy, but its from bad food and goes all to my waist.
Posted on 6/20/22 at 12:25 am to hikingfan
Man, you have no idea how much I feel your situation. My natural height and weight if I didn’t do anything is 5’10” at about 140lbs. My numbers and weight are shite right now because I had to stop lifting for 3 months for health reasons (been back lifting for about a month now), but January of 2020 I weight 170 and had roughly 11% body fat. That month I did 1RM and benched 340, squatted 405, and deadlifted 445. I looked great and felt great. Not writing this to brag, but to just tell you that it can be done.
I feel like that was at our getting pretty close to my natural limit. All I can say is it’s tempting to get on the juice because of how hard it is for someone with your body type to gain weight. I know it’s fricking hard. But, you really should never touch the PEDs until you’ve pushed your natural limits (if ever at all). PEDs aren’t going to make you magically gain muscle. You still have to eat and train right so you really wouldn’t see much of a benefit jumping into it until you know how to manage your diet anyways.
On diet when gaining, my rule of thumb is trying to hit 200g of protein and at least 2600 calories a day. Track everything religiously for at least 3 months. After that, you’ll learn how to eyeball things.
It’s going to be hard to eat what you need to eat. I don’t know what it looks like for you, but I drank eggs, ate a shitload of ground beef, and supplemented what I needed with protein.
It sounds like we have extremely similar body types. If you want to gain, you’re going have to eat and it’s going to suck until you adjust to it. It’s just a commitment that you’ll have to make just like I did when I was tired of being the small, skinny dude.
ETA: stop doing “bodybuilding” workouts. Like others have said, focus on strength and run Greyskull LP, 5/3/1 etc. More strength = more muscle (generally).
I feel like that was at our getting pretty close to my natural limit. All I can say is it’s tempting to get on the juice because of how hard it is for someone with your body type to gain weight. I know it’s fricking hard. But, you really should never touch the PEDs until you’ve pushed your natural limits (if ever at all). PEDs aren’t going to make you magically gain muscle. You still have to eat and train right so you really wouldn’t see much of a benefit jumping into it until you know how to manage your diet anyways.
On diet when gaining, my rule of thumb is trying to hit 200g of protein and at least 2600 calories a day. Track everything religiously for at least 3 months. After that, you’ll learn how to eyeball things.
It’s going to be hard to eat what you need to eat. I don’t know what it looks like for you, but I drank eggs, ate a shitload of ground beef, and supplemented what I needed with protein.
It sounds like we have extremely similar body types. If you want to gain, you’re going have to eat and it’s going to suck until you adjust to it. It’s just a commitment that you’ll have to make just like I did when I was tired of being the small, skinny dude.
ETA: stop doing “bodybuilding” workouts. Like others have said, focus on strength and run Greyskull LP, 5/3/1 etc. More strength = more muscle (generally).
This post was edited on 6/20/22 at 12:37 am
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