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re: Walmart pulls coconut milk brand because of forced monkey labor

Posted on 6/7/22 at 2:18 pm to
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 6/7/22 at 2:18 pm to
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Why is this bad?


I never said it is. Did you read my post?
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 6/7/22 at 2:20 pm to
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Chaokoh coconut milk


It's the best coconut milk product in grocery stores. Better than savoy, Goya, you name it.
Posted by oblio
Member since Oct 2008
339 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 2:22 pm to
I guess those monkeys better learn to code.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119543 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 2:22 pm to
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I never said it is. Did you read my post?


This is why I hate message boards sometimes. You can't hear the tone of my voice or body language. Just to let you know when I asked that question I was not being accusatory at all.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 6/7/22 at 2:24 pm to
I would question this milk even being from coconuts as they don't give birth to live young and even if they did, they don't have nipples.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27459 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 2:25 pm to
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This is why I hate message boards sometimes. You can't hear the tone of my voice or body language. Just to let you know when I asked that question I was not being accusatory at all.


Completely fair, and my bad for being a little jumpy

I’m on my phone, but in the process of c/p the allegations from PETA’s website, just so they get fewer clicks than my linking it
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 6/7/22 at 2:26 pm to
Nike staying on the shelves though?
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 6/7/22 at 2:27 pm to
ETA: c/p from PETA’s website, because they don’t deserve the clicks. But just to convey the actual accusations, whether true or not:

“Many kind people choose coconut milk instead of cow’s milk because they don’t want to support cruelty to animals. But a disturbing PETA Asia investigation reveals that terrified young monkeys in Thailand are kept chained, abusively trained, and forced to climb trees to pick coconuts that are used to make coconut milk, meat, flour, oil, and other products.

In 2019, PETA Asia investigators visited eight farms where monkeys are forced to pick coconuts—including those for one of Thailand’s major coconut milk producers, Chaokoh—as well as several monkey-training facilities and a coconut-picking competition. At each one, they documented that these sensitive animals were abused and exploited. Since being alerted to this situation nearly a year ago, Chaokoh and the Thai government have failed to take meaningful action to end the use of forced monkey labor. They are relying on a misleading and inadequate audit system instead of going directly to inspect the farms themselves. This allows them to remain willfully ignorant of the extent of forced monkey labor in their coconut supply chain.
In 2020, a new PETA Asia investigation found that monkeys are still being used at many farms and that monkey schools are still in operation and coconut-picking competitions using monkeys are still taking place. Even though many retailers around the world have stopped purchasing Thai coconut products, the Thai coconut industry, including Chaokoh and the Thai Food Processors Association, and Thailand’s ambassador to the U.S. are all actively attempting to mislead global retailers and consumers about the continued use of monkey labor.

Reportedly, many monkeys are illegally abducted from their families when they’re just babies. They’re fitted with rigid metal collars and kept chained or tethered for extended periods.

Denied the freedom to move around, socialize with others, or do anything else that is important to them, these intelligent animals slowly lose their minds. Driven to desperation, they pace and circle endlessly on the barren, trash-strewn patches of dirt where they’re chained.

The terrified young monkeys are forced to perform frustrating and difficult tasks, such as twisting heavy coconuts until they fall off the trees from a great height. An investigator learned that if monkeys try to defend themselves, their canine teeth may be pulled.
To earn more money off these animals, some trainers also force them to participate in circus-style shows in which they entertain paying visitors by riding bicycles, shooting basketballs, and performing other confusing and demeaning tricks.

An investigator saw monkeys being transported in cramped cages that were barely large enough for them to turn around in and others left in locked cages in the back of a pickup truck, with no shelter from the driving rain. One monkey was seen frantically shaking the cage bars in a vain attempt to escape.

Tethered by the neck with a metal collar, the monkeys are forced to climb up and down trees and collect coconuts.”
This post was edited on 6/7/22 at 2:29 pm
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
28082 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 2:30 pm to
Stop all this monkey business, now!!!!!!
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
55462 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 2:30 pm to
150 years ago those PETA frickers would have starved to death because they refused to use horses and mules to work the land and harvest the crops.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
53109 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 2:33 pm to
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Tethered by the neck with a metal collar, the monkeys are forced to climb up and down trees and collect coconuts.”


It's a monkey. What else are they supposed to be doing?
Posted by lsu5803tiger
Democratic Republic of the Congo
Member since Feb 2006
1632 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 2:34 pm to
They need to unionize
Posted by Tempratt
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 6/7/22 at 2:36 pm to
They're animals. They don't know they're working.
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9546 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 2:39 pm to
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a new PETA Asia investigation found that monkeys are still being used at many farms and that monkey schools are still in operation and coconut-picking competitions using monkeys are still taking place


Oh heaven forbid having coconut picking competitions!


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Reportedly, many monkeys are illegally abducted from their families when they’re just babies. They’re fitted with rigid metal collars and kept chained or tethered for extended periods.

Denied the freedom to move around, socialize with others, or do anything else that is important to them, these intelligent animals slowly lose their minds. Driven to desperation, they pace and circle endlessly on the barren, trash-strewn patches of dirt where they’re chained.


This reads like an emotional hit piece like the monkeys aee tortured 24/7 when in actuality they are on a leash while they work.

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The terrified young monkeys are forced to perform frustrating and difficult tasks, such as twisting heavy coconuts until they fall off the trees from a great height.


Seen the videos, they dont appear frusterated and actually do it with great ease. Humans do much worse work.


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entertain paying visitors by riding bicycles, shooting basketballs, and performing other confusing and demeaning tricks.





Cliffs: frick peta and their mafia style hit pieces on the world supply chain
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 2:39 pm to
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Elephants work for peanuts. Monkeys work for bananas.


not anymore your evil capitalist. The monkeys want to work remote and get better pay.
Posted by WaterLink
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 6/7/22 at 2:53 pm to
Can't help but be reminded of the new Always Sunny season where they replaced Dee with a monkey lol
Posted by Son of Dad
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2011
206 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 2:54 pm to


I couldn't find any footage of the laborers, but I believe this guy works in HR.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 3:00 pm to
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Lmao, that's fricking impressive that they have monkeys working for them.


I can almost guarantee the United States has done this.
Posted by dat yat
Chef Pass
Member since Jun 2011
4361 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 3:03 pm to
What about service dogs?

And does this mean that plowing with oxen, using a mule cart or riding a horse is somehow wrong?
Posted by High C
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Member since Nov 2012
54313 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 3:07 pm to
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What about service dogs?

And does this mean that plowing with oxen, using a mule cart or riding a horse is somehow wrong?


Is there any human/animal interaction that PETA doesn’t think is wrong?
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