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The Uvalde received school shooting training 2 months ago; here are the findings
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:15 pm
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:15 pm
From Mike Baker’s Twitter
All 19 of those officers outside the door should arrested immediately, tried, and punished to the fullest extent of the law. We need to salt the earth with this cowardly police department.
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I have spent the past few days researching the training of Uvalde officers, including the tactics they were expected to use to halt school shooters.
The documents are jarring. Here’s a thread of our findings so far.
In the past two years, the Uvalde school district has hosted at least two active-shooter training days. One of them was just two months ago.
The trainings included both classroom teachings and role-playing scenarios inside school hallways (below).
New York Times
The Uvalde training session 2 months ago relied on guidelines that give explicit expectations for officers responding to an active shooter.
The training is clear: Time is of the essence. The “first priority is to move in and confront the attacker.”
New York Times
But how should officers confront the gunman? With a tactical team? The training says that's probably not feasible, because the urgency is so high.
A SINGLE OFFICER, the training says, may need to confront the suspect on their own.
The guidelines provide sobering clarity: The first officers may be risking their lives. But, it says, innocent lives take priority.
“A first responder unwilling to place the lives of the innocent above their own safety should consider another career field."
The training expectations are obviously in stark contrast to what we are seeing in Uvalde. Police officials have said that officers were reluctant to engage the gunman because “they could’ve been shot.”
The guidelines actually provide scenarios in which officers are shot, including one modeled after the Santa Fe High School shooting, also in Texas.
The scenario explains that if one officer is shot, the second “is expected to go on responding solo.”
New York Times
We are continuing to scrutinize the Uvalde response. Meanwhile, here’s a look at nationwide training for active shooters.
“If you know children are being murdered, why do you wait? Get in there.”
All 19 of those officers outside the door should arrested immediately, tried, and punished to the fullest extent of the law. We need to salt the earth with this cowardly police department.
This post was edited on 5/27/22 at 9:44 pm
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:16 pm to OMLandshark
As a football coach once said:
Your Jimmies and Joes are more important than your X’s and O’s.
Your Jimmies and Joes are more important than your X’s and O’s.
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:16 pm to OMLandshark
This whole thing is insanely bizarre. I honestly can’t comprehend how they thought it was acceptable to just stand out there for an hour.
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:17 pm to OMLandshark
Wait till they start digging on the violence prevention AI software the school district was using...
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:17 pm to OMLandshark
It’s amazing how all of a sudden this board has gone from the opinion that the NYT is trash to quoting every single article the NYT publishes about it.
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:19 pm to Cymry Teigr
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It’s amazing how all of a sudden this board has gone from the opinion that the NYT is trash to quoting every single article the NYT publishes about it.
They’re not always wrong. Even Brian Stelter and Oliver Darcy, both people who I despise, are going berserk on Twitter over this and I think their points are fair. Everyone is railing into this police department over this.
This post was edited on 5/27/22 at 9:20 pm
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:20 pm to OMLandshark
I’m not a big conspiracy guy, but I’ll be damned if what’s coming out about their response isn’t making me reconsider.
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:23 pm to OMLandshark
They are going to be sued into oblivion.
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:23 pm to Cymry Teigr
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It’s amazing how all of a sudden this board has gone from the opinion that the NYT is trash to quoting every single article the NYT publishes about it.
The NYT is only wrong when it publishes a negative story about Trump.
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:24 pm to OMLandshark
I agree somewhat but at the same time it’s pretty clear that they’re portraying it and releasing info in a fashion to make it appear to be an even bigger clusterfrick than it already was. Their timing is perfect that they keep piling on the outrage rather than draw real timelines with solid and complete reporting that may eventually dispel some of these items that are being quoted by them as facts.
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:29 pm to OMLandshark
the Uvalde...?
ISD police,, LEO, Police....
ISD police,, LEO, Police....
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:29 pm to OMLandshark
Undoubtedly, we’re going to learn a lot about tactical trainings and SOP’s in the next few weeks.
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:29 pm to Cymry Teigr
Maybe as a society, we should quit deriding toxic masculinity and return to the days of hard charging police departments that care
More about crime prevention than the social agendas of the municipalities they serve.
More about crime prevention than the social agendas of the municipalities they serve.
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:29 pm to Cymry Teigr
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It’s amazing how all of a sudden this board has gone from the opinion that the NYT is trash to quoting every single article the NYT publishes about it.
If you want to know why nothing will ever truly change in this country, it’s because people are so politically tribal that we can’t even get collectively pissed off about stunning, abhorrent cowardice and incompetence by the police that directly resulted in the deaths of terrified children without checking the party line first.
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:30 pm to OMLandshark
But we need to hire retired police and soldiers to stand guard at every school lol. A whole police force is scared to engage but a single retired guy will definitely.
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:31 pm to Cymry Teigr
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It’s amazing how all of a sudden this board has gone from the opinion that the NYT is trash to quoting every single article the NYT publishes about it.
This may have something to do with the NYT articles (at least this one) on the shooting being more who what where when why and less OpEd pieces masquerading as News.
My personal political views have been at odds with those of the NYT since graduating college in the late 80's. Yet, I still read the Times and actually subscribed to the Sunday edition up until about 10 years ago. My politics haven't changed much in that time. Theirs hasn't either, but they have blatantly chosen to take it from the OpEd page where it belonged and insert it through out the entire paper. As a Journalism grad, it really sucks to have watched it happen with them and 95% of all other forms of print media as well.
And to be fair, it has happened in the fewer right leaning publications in existence as well.
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:32 pm to DavidTheGnome
You’re missing the point. These schools are currently soft targets and the known presence of armed staff would be enough to make these freaks reconsider.
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:32 pm to DavidTheGnome
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But we need to hire retired police and soldiers to stand guard at every school lol. A whole police force is scared to engage but a single retired guy will definitely.
Worse than that, there’s a very serious argument that we need to arm teachers. Based on all the teachers I had growing, and all the teachers I’ve gotten to n ow since my kids have been in school, I’d say I’d be comfortable with arming maaaaybe 1% of those.
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:33 pm to Cymry Teigr
The only reason the NYT is even bothering with this is because it makes police look bad.
frick them.
frick them.
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:33 pm to DavidTheGnome
what’s your suggestion?
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