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re: The Uvalde received school shooting training 2 months ago; here are the findings
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:34 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:34 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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You’re missing the point. These schools are currently soft targets and the known presence of armed staff would be enough to make these freaks reconsider.
LoL no they won’t. The shooter is calculating “ok it’s a soft target I can run in shooting little kids knowing I’ll die in the end anyways”
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Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:34 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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I’m not a big conspiracy guy, but I’ll be damned if what’s coming out about their response isn’t making me reconsider.
fricking this.
What’s the chances you have that many cowards all together at once, while kids are being slaughtered?
This post was edited on 5/27/22 at 9:39 pm
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:36 pm to Team Vote
Ive been withholding any judgment against the cops because i know nothing about their SOPs.
An active shooter situation is different than a hostage situation. A hostage situation can turn into an active shooter situation. If there is a gunfight, getting innocent children/faculty away before the fight could be a strategy.
But this reporting is a pretty blunt blow against the police and the entire concept of training exercises and leadership.
An active shooter situation is different than a hostage situation. A hostage situation can turn into an active shooter situation. If there is a gunfight, getting innocent children/faculty away before the fight could be a strategy.
But this reporting is a pretty blunt blow against the police and the entire concept of training exercises and leadership.
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:36 pm to Klark Kent
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what’s your suggestion?
Get on with life and not overreact? It’s a horrible tradgedy but otherwise that’s it
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:36 pm to Team Vote
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If you want to know why nothing will ever truly change in this country, it’s because people are so politically tribal that we can’t even get collectively pissed off about stunning, abhorrent cowardice and incompetence by the police that directly resulted in the deaths of terrified children without checking the party line first.
This times a thousand. The politicization of the gun control issue of a prime example. I know more than a handful of moderate to left leaning people who own guns for both hunting and personal protection and strict conservatives who have never held a firearm, much less purchase or use one. According to the rhetoric from both sides, these people do not exist.
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:37 pm to DavidTheGnome
ditto
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:38 pm to DavidTheGnome
Are you stupid? The location of these shootings are chosen specifically because of the lack of firearms and the lack of ability of the targets to resist. Wtf are you talking even talking about 
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:39 pm to DavidTheGnome
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LoL no they won’t. The shooter is calculating “ok it’s a soft target I can run in shooting little kids knowing I’ll die in the end anyways”
I disagree.
Soft target at an elementary school means maximum damage.
Eliminating the soft target aspect would eliminate maximum damage and the crazies would be looking at daycares and supermarkets
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:39 pm to OMLandshark
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The training is clear: Time is of the essence. The “first priority is to move in and confront the attacker.”
This only applies when fake bullets are used.
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:40 pm to tankyank13
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fricking this.
What’s the chances you have that many cowards all together at once, while kids are being slaughtered?
It’s beyond me. I can not fathom standing aside during this. If I was one of those 19, there’s no way I’d still be around since I would have killed myself for sure over it. I don’t see how you live with yourself over doing that and I think they should all get an accelerated death penalty with months of media smears on all of them. Make it clear to any cop (nevertheless 19+) what will happen to them if they don’t engage with a shooter trying to serial kill kids.
This post was edited on 5/28/22 at 11:15 am
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:40 pm to OMLandshark
Having done this training multiple times, it's so appalling how they reacted in the complete opposite way. There are so many scenarios that are gone through, that expressly teach you to go towards the fight immediately and don't stage or wait for backup. What were they thinking? Why didn't they care?
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:41 pm to Basura Blanco
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This may have something to do with the NYT articles (at least this one) on the shooting being more who what where when why and less OpEd pieces masquerading as News.
I agree, but at the same time their current reporting on this amounts to nothing more than sensationalism quoting statements (sometimes partial) that are the obvious direct result of a whole lot of finger pointing that’s going on right now between all parties.
It doesn’t take a brain surgeon to see the progress from the line that the police waited an hour, to all of a sudden the police releasing the info that the door was unlocked shifting the blame partially to one teacher, and so on.
And it’s very effective as a form of media reporting to amass support for their ultimate goal which we definitely know the NYT has as regards their stance on the Second Amendment.
If they keep the ball rolling enough they garner far more support this way with lots of smaller groups outraged, than what eventually will play out to be people’s final sentiments as to where the majority of blame lies.
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:42 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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The only reason the NYT is even bothering with this is because it makes police look bad.
So you’d rather they not report this and the department avoid any accountability?
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:44 pm to meansonny
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crazies would be looking at daycares and supermarkets
Have you already forgotten the shooting last week?
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:45 pm to meansonny
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Eliminating the soft target aspect would eliminate maximum damage and the crazies would be looking at daycares and supermarkets
I'm no psychologist, but I am willing to bet the majority of school shootings were done at schools as that's where all of the grievance's (perceived and real) took place in the mentally fricked minds of the shooter.
Speaking of which, in the Uvalde case, I know it is assumed, but has it been proven that the killer was on his way to the school to begin with or was it the first place he came too when he crashed the truck?
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:45 pm to supadave3
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crazies would be looking at daycares and supermarkets
Have you already forgotten the shooting last week?
No. That is why i said the crazies would pick daycares and supermarkets.
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:46 pm to supadave3
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Have you already forgotten the shooting last week?
That just proves his point
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:49 pm to Basura Blanco
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Eliminating the soft target aspect would eliminate maximum damage and the crazies would be looking at daycares and supermarkets
I'm no psychologist, but I am willing to bet the majority of school shootings were done at schools as that's where all of the grievance's (perceived and real) took place in the mentally fricked minds of the shooter.
Speaking of which, in the Uvalde case, I know it is assumed, but has it been proven that the killer was on his way to the school to begin with or was it the first place he came too when he crashed the truck?
He chose not to go to his high school where he had a ton of grievances and chose to shoot up an elementary school.
Im not in his head. But if you want to burn the world and scar society in the process, the younger victim is the choice.
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:49 pm to The Spleen
I’m saying that only an idiot reads the NYT and takes it at face value. They don’t give a frick about those kids. This is an opportunity for them to push gun control and smear police in the process.
This post was edited on 5/27/22 at 9:50 pm
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:54 pm to OMLandshark
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All 19 of those officers outside the door should arrested immediately, tried, and punished to the fullest extent of the law.
Didn’t their CO tell them to not move in?
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