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re: The Uvalde received school shooting training 2 months ago; here are the findings

Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:54 pm to
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:54 pm to
The cops are looking worse and worse every article that’s published.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37543 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:55 pm to
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Wait till they start digging on the violence prevention AI software the school district was using...


What?
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
8161 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:56 pm to
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He chose not to go to his high school where he had a ton of grievances and chose to shoot up an elementary school.


Thanks, I had not heard that.

Can you imagine the mindset of the parents and students at Uvalde High School? Totally thankful he didn't make it there, and the survivors guilt associated with that feeling.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37543 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:58 pm to
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quote: It’s amazing how all of a sudden this board has gone from the opinion that the NYT is trash to quoting every single article the NYT publishes about it. The NYT is only wrong when it publishes a negative story about Trump.


NYT opinion pieces are worthy of the ridicule they get here. When they merge their opinion pieces with reporting/factual articles and never acknowledge that, they deserve ridicule.

When they are just reporting facts, like the training the school and police received, it truly shows why we should have free, unbiased press.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108567 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:58 pm to
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Didn’t their CO tell them to not move in?


frick anyone defending these people for “just following orders.” If it were for cocksuckers like you, Eichmann would have gotten off. Hey he was just trying to make the trains run on time, right? I have no patience for that defense.
This post was edited on 5/27/22 at 10:00 pm
Posted by Joe_Dirte
Southwest LA
Member since Feb 2019
647 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 10:02 pm to
What’s amazing to me is how some think everyone has to agree 100% of the time. Which is impossible by the way.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25529 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 10:05 pm to
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I’m not a big conspiracy guy, but I’ll be damned if what’s coming out about their response isn’t making me reconsider.


Not arguing, because it is fishy…but…how do you get that many cops to tank their job and allow for 21 people (19 kids) to get killed. This isn’t California or NYC, people in Uvalde aren’t so liberal that they would be cool with this situation to push an agenda.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29453 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 10:06 pm to
Just need 1 superior to tell them to stand down.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 10:07 pm to
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Not arguing, because it is fishy…but…how do you get that many cops to tank their job and allow for 21 people (19 kids) to get killed. This isn’t California or NYC, people in Uvalde aren’t so liberal that they would be cool with this situation to push an agenda.


Never ascribe to malice what could much more easily be ascribed to incompetence.

Edit: Look at the waistline of your typical small town cop, as well as their high school GPA, if you think these people are the cream of the crop.
This post was edited on 5/27/22 at 10:10 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108567 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 10:10 pm to
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Never ascribe to malice what could much more easily be ascribed to incompetence.


I’m sorry, but Barney Fife and Gomer Pyle would have broken into that room and taken the bullets for kids if need be.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
8161 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 10:10 pm to
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Never ascribe to malice what could much more easily be ascribed to incompetence.



I was going to go with Occam's razor, but this fits better.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 10:14 pm to
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You’re missing the point. These schools are currently soft targets and the known presence of armed staff would be enough to make these freaks reconsider.


There was armed staff on the premises, what are you talking about?
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
6489 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 10:14 pm to
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It’s amazing how all of a sudden this board has gone from the opinion that the NYT is trash to quoting every single article the NYT publishes about it.


Looks like the NYT is quoting a training document on how to respond. Please tell me that you understand that.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 10:14 pm to
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This is an opportunity for them to push gun control

Yup
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smear police in the process.

The Uvalde PD should be absolutely crushed
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25529 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 10:19 pm to
Fair enough. I want to believe some cop, any cop, would have gone in solo. I could be wrong though.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48949 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 10:19 pm to
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They are going to be sued into oblivion.


police officers have qualified immunity and Supreme Court precedent affirms they have zero legal obligation to protect the innocent

Back the blue
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 10:20 pm to
Absolutely. The NYT isn’t stupid. They know they can use Uvalde PD to push a narrative about police forces across the country.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
7328 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 10:23 pm to
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quote:
Didn’t their CO tell them to not move in?



frick anyone defending these people for “just following orders.” If it were for cocksuckers like you, Eichmann would have gotten off. Hey he was just trying to make the trains run on time, right? I have no patience for that defense.


He is just asking a question...If they would have breached against orders and kids were killed in the shootout would the cops be held accountable? Im not defending the decision by commanding officer or those guys in the hallway. Just trying to understand what was thier thinking in that moment.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113970 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 10:26 pm to
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The NYT is only wrong when it publishes a negative story about Trump.



This is true. Its funny how people don't realize they do it, but the credibility of any news source depends on whether or not it supports what they believe.

With that said, to address some of the other comments in this thread. I have said on multiple occasions that it is interesting how certain things happen during presidential election years and midterm election years.

I am not going to blindly believe something without hard evidence. Its more of "if it was revealed that there are some type of political group that put things in place for these events to happen" it wouldn't surprise me.

Whether it's 4chan, 8chan or wherever some of these potential extremist people hang out online, I am sure if someone reaches out to them, it wouldn't be that hard to radicalize them. It would have to be some type of company that claims to be a "social media marketing" company or something like that. As incompetent as the government is, it wouldn't be done within the government.

But I think if George Floyd didn't happen during an election year no one would have heard about it. Same goes for the other shooting of black people by police that happened that year.

Some random person doesn't just post a video online and it automatically goes viral. There are a few things that need to happen for something to go viral and there are ways to make something trending. So it would not surprise me if there is something at play that keeps America divided.
Posted by John88
Member since Sep 2015
6216 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 10:26 pm to
Where’s the part where they wait for an hour while kids get murdered in a bloodbath?
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