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re: Baseball needs a speed limit

Posted on 5/19/22 at 11:00 am to
Posted by theOG
Member since Feb 2010
10518 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 11:00 am to
How in the hell did this asinine idea even generate discussion here?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31661 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 11:01 am to
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I get the overall point. Pitching injuries in pro baseball are absurd to the point where TJ seems like a given for a young starter now and it’s trickling down more and more to the amateur levels

I’m not sure what the fix is, I don’t think this is it because the enforcement of it would slow the game down one way or the other and pitching isn’t like driving a car



the fix is already here. The advanced arm care techniques where we know the imbalances and can fix them is 100% afforable right now even at the youth level and prices are coming down even more. Go look at the armcare.com app and do research on it.

other thing is things like the 90mph formula and those kinds of metrics will help kids understand....yea you may be able to throw 90+ without these using mostly arm, but if you want to stay healthy....there is a much better chance if you meet the metrics.

also the other thing is....Tommie John surgery is not something to be feared anymore. In fact at the college level and above, pitchers usually come back stronger and throwing faster.

velo is not going away period and will only advance more and more due to understanding how to safely develop it.

want more offense int he game?

1) ban the shift, its frickign retarded anyways and has changed the game and took away the contact hitter.

2) move 2nd base where it is supposed to be

3) make the bases bigger

4) tighter strike zones or better calls through auto strike zone

5) enforce true balk rules on LHP



If that fails the other two things you could do is

1) move the mound back 1'
2) widen the field to where the bases are no longer on the lines so there is more space between the lines without moving the bases


i say all that just to say the first 2 or 3 things are going to make a huge difference especially the ban on the shift.
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
3587 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 11:31 am to
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How in the hell did this asinine idea even generate discussion here?



Granted, it’s an extremely unlikely and outlandish idea, but it generated discussion because people realize we may reach a point where the speed of pitches breaks the game of baseball.
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
3587 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 11:37 am to
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Tommie John surgery is not something to be feared anymore. In fact at the college level and above, pitchers usually come back stronger and throwing faster


Consider the implications of this.
Posted by texn
Pronouns: Y'All/Y'All's
Member since Nov 2019
3522 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 12:13 pm to
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all of the simple-brained “that’s the dumbest idea I’ve ever heard” responses.


2nd dumbest

Winner: Rube Baker: You want the pitcher to pitch from second base?
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38851 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 12:37 pm to
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baseball would be a better game if pitches over, say, 97 mph were banned.



And pitches that break more than 12", and pitches that make a batter uncomfortable, and pitches that are just too difficult to hit.
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
33771 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 12:39 pm to
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simple-brained “that’s the dumbest idea I’ve ever heard” responses.
well it sure doesn't take a complex brain to see it
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60282 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 12:40 pm to
There is nothing natural or healthy about normalizing surgery for 13-17 year olds because of athletics, I’m sorry
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
48005 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 12:43 pm to
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2) move 2nd base where it is supposed to be


I wasn’t aware it was in the wrong spot
Posted by PenguinPubes
Frozen Tundra
Member since Jan 2018
10834 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 12:48 pm to
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Maybe come up with a defensible counter point


My counterpoint is.. it’s the MLB, throw the ball as fricking hard as you want to
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
15986 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 1:02 pm to
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True or false


False. End of thread
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
17304 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 2:13 pm to
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Not competitive advantage because everyone would have the same rules, but yes safety and more just about maintaining a balance between pitching and hitting.

Are we not approaching a time when the average pitch is almost 100mph?
Well, for starters, they stopped measuring pitch speed several years ago by how fast it is as it hits the catchers mitt, and began measuring it at the pitcher's release point, which is WHY the average pitch velocity "is up." They aren't throwing it any harder. The measuring method changed.

So let's began with that fact, see if you can maybe pull your head out of your arse with this terrible thread, and go back and reconsider now that you are aware of this information.
This post was edited on 5/19/22 at 2:15 pm
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12499 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 2:19 pm to
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quote:

How would you enforce this



Not that I agree with the idea, but you could say any pitch over 97MPH is an automatic ball.


What about if a batter makes contact and puts the ball in play? Is the play dead retroactively? That would lead to a ton of false starts with the number of dead ball plays.
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
23364 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 2:41 pm to
3) make the bases bigger

Interesting idea. Would be less people smashing into each other and more steals as runner could aim for the outside corner.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101934 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 2:54 pm to
The bases are getting 3" bigger starting next season. 15" on each side to 18".

This happened in the minors already.

What's weird is that the 90' is measured from the tip of home plate to the back edge of first and third, but the 90' to second base from each back corner is measured to the middle of the base.
This post was edited on 5/19/22 at 2:55 pm
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31661 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 2:59 pm to
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I wasn’t aware it was in the wrong spot


its actually not directly lined up wiht the other bases
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31661 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 3:05 pm to
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There is nothing natural or healthy about normalizing surgery for 13-17 year olds because of athletics, I’m sorry


didnt say there was. but do people freak about an acl tear and the kid comes back stronger in that knee? NOPE wtf is the difference

and i specifically said that we know the metrics that cause ucl injury and most important things to do to prevent it.

blame baseballs stupid arse unwritten rules and old school outlook on things causing most of the issues. People are scare to have kids lift. kids playing baseball should start arm care and lifting at 9 at the latest. But parents are dumb as shite and dont want that.

skipping lifting is like giving your 9 year old a corvette. At first its fine, the motor matches the breaks. But now every year you upgrade the motor but never the breaks.....after a few upgrades that becomes a huge issue.

its the same thing with the arm. we fail to train the deceleration muscles and many that do train them fail to train deceleration on the lay back creating imbalances. this is where the tech comes into play with the armcare.com device.

people wanna claim its overuse or curve balls etc when its not...its fricking imbalances or using just arm speed instead of using the strength to create the drive through hip shoulder seperation.

TLDR....nobody normalized surgery, PARENTS ARE frickIGN DUMB....KIDS NEED TO BE STENGTH TRAINING AND PERFORMING ARM CARE.
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
8684 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 3:08 pm to
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Earnest_P


Do you lean left politically?

Serious question.. just trying to see something
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
39139 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 3:11 pm to
They need to make the panels of a baseball out of two different textures…so you could curve it like a whiffle ball.
This post was edited on 5/19/22 at 3:12 pm
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
9688 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 3:24 pm to
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How would you enforce this
if you lightened the ball, could that slow it down?
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