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The Bagman...NIL is out of control

Posted on 5/5/22 at 1:29 pm
Posted by jafari rastaman
Member since Nov 2015
1847 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 1:29 pm
But is it possible what we are seeing now has been going on for years now, but behind the scenes? I’m positive some of the big donors today were the ones filling the bags in the years past.
This post was edited on 5/5/22 at 1:58 pm
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59085 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

But is it possible what we are seeing now has been going on for years now, but behind the scenes?


Of course.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

But is it possible what we are seeing now has been going on for years now, but behind the scenes?


Posted by ogpancake
Livingston, LA
Member since Mar 2019
48 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 1:53 pm to
I think I've heard of a strong arse offer before
Posted by Tiger Ike
SW Louisiana
Member since Aug 2013
1449 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 1:57 pm to
I heard something about a barber one time.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18157 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 2:13 pm to
sure, players were getting paid, but not as much since it was all under the table.

But the real problem is the combination of NIL and the immediate-play transfer. This terrible combo means players can literally go to the highest bidder, and play immediately next year.

The combo of the two is destroying the game.
Posted by LSU4Life123
Member since Dec 2012
126 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 2:18 pm to
Disagree with your first comment. I had a buddy who was a walk on for the football team who explicitly told me that an unnamed starter circa 2016(who was not good) was gifted a house at U Club during his time there as well as a debit card that never dropped below 5 figures.

quote:

sure, players were getting paid, but not as much since it was all under the table.

But the real problem is the combination of NIL and the immediate-play transfer. This terrible combo means players can literally go to the highest bidder, and play immediately next year.

The combo of the two is destroying the game.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18157 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 2:33 pm to
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Disagree with your first comment. I had a buddy who was a walk on for the football team who explicitly told me that an unnamed starter circa 2016(who was not good) was gifted a house at U Club during his time there as well as a debit card that never dropped below 5 figures.
but some players are now getting (literally) millions in cash. That level of payment didn't happen prior to NIL.
Posted by LSUPRS
Member since Sep 2010
155 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 3:01 pm to
Collectives are not new and the bagmen have always been the guys with 5-10k in cash to provide to recruits. The big money guys help but are normally used by the program for bigger needs
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
5947 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 5:02 pm to
It was going on, but only for a select few, I suspect. Now that they don't have to hide, these boosters are just going out and buying all the best players on what is now effectively the free agent market. And players don't have to worry about being caught, either, so we're seeing way more than ever. There is no other way that Jimbo Fisher would out-recruit Nick Saban.
Posted by The Hurricane
Gulf of Mexico
Member since Aug 2011
7989 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 5:12 pm to
People truly can’t be naive to the fact that players have been getting paid in various ways. Go to Lauberge after a football game and you’ll see players picking up chips from different persons. If a player needed a new TV or something from Best Buy, it would be paid for and all they had to do was pick it up.
Posted by PigDog33
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2021
768 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:22 pm to
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This terrible combo means players can literally go to the highest bidder, and play immediately next year.


Why shouldn’t the top talent in this multi billion dollar industry have this right ?
Posted by ManyTiger
Member since Jun 2020
644 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:46 pm to
There are a few reasons. But first, I’ll say that I am ALL in favor of players getting paid. And I am sure they have been getting paid for a really long time.

But, the way this is set up, every team is essentially made up of free agents. That can and are leaving after one year at a school. How are coaches supposed to manage their rosters?

So at the end of the day, the programs with the most egotistical boosters that will give a group of kids the most money & the nicest cars will be the programs that have all of the top tier talent. This means that there will only be a small handful of programs that will compete for championships. It’s not about X’s & O’s, but Jimmys & Joes. And LSU ain’t in that group.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20457 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 9:49 pm to
Players have always got paid, but nowhere to this scale.
quote:

This means that there will only be a small handful of programs that will compete for championships. It’s not about X’s & O’s, but Jimmys & Joes. And LSU ain’t in that group.

Oh, bullshite. LSU will find guys to pony up the cash.

Look for a lot of "construction and renovation" contracts to come from LSU, which will filter the TV money out to various groups, who will then buy rosters. You know it's going to happen.
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
20889 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 11:57 pm to
I liked it better with skeevy under the table deals. Tennessee happy meal bags of cash come to mind. A more fun era.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16036 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 12:38 am to
For the most part, they were getting paid chump change relative to what they are paid now
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26705 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 12:40 am to
quote:

Disagree with your first comment. I had a buddy who was a walk on for the football team who explicitly told me that an unnamed starter circa 2016(who was not good) was gifted a house at U Club during his time there as well as a debit card that never dropped below 5 figures.
kids weren't getting millions to play one year.

You remember the big Cam Newton thing? What was it 300k to his father's church or something like that? Those numbers don't even compare to now.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
71241 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 12:55 am to
quote:

But is it possible what we are seeing now has been going on for years now, but behind the scenes? I’m positive some of the big donors today were the ones filling the bags in the years past.



No shite.

Nothing has actually changed other than it's public now. Which is why I find it hilarious that people think this has ruined college sports.
Posted by Irish ND fan
Ireland
Member since Feb 2022
40 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 7:58 am to
£180k for Cam.
Posted by RightWingTiger
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2003
5321 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 10:41 am to
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The combo of the two is destroying the game.

You are correct!

I think the player should be locked into the initial school for a min 1 season / semester & then also a minimum of 1 season / semester each time they transfer via the PORTAL.

They should have instituted some type of checks & mandates or limits or something to NIL & the PORTAL. Allowing both basically unabated is akin to saying Fuk-It!!!!
This post was edited on 5/6/22 at 10:59 am
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