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re: Protestants in Europe have fallen

Posted by Metaloctopus on 11/12/25 at 12:05 am to
Please don't refer to these as protestants. They aren't even remotely Christian.
Your ignorance is your own problem, friend.
America first is not about blaming everything on the Jews, without evidence. Being a Christian is also not a political movement. A believer in Christ does not stand by people who claim to be conservatives, who are filled with hatred and inciting others to hate.

America first is not about blaming Israel for protecting itself from Muslim terrorists. America first is not about saying that Hitler was "a pretty cool guy", or that Sharia Law isn't so bad. It's not about blaming TPUSA for Charlie's death. These are some of the crazy things coming from Tucker, Owens and Fuentes.

It's not about whether you are a Zionist, or whatever you want to call yourself. It's calling out evil where it exists. These people are lying about everything Israel does, making conspiracy theories about everything, and putting people in harms way by throwing accusations around.

Meanwhile, people like Dinesh are some of the very few talking about the mass murdering of Christians in Nigeria and Sudan by Muslims, while these hacks just keep talking about the Jews.

Some people care about MORE than America. Some of us actually care about right and wrong, and not just pretending that America is the only place that matters. We all want closed borders, lower taxes, and fair trades. We all care about the things that matter to this country. But we can care about more than just out own backyard at one time.

I've never seen the passage in the Bible that said to only care about your country. MAGA, if it is indeed "dead", is not so because of people who care about more than just ourselves. It's because of people who never understood what it meant to begin with. America "first" is not America only. America and Israel have had a strong relationship for a reason. protecting the only place in a sea of Islamic rule that shares much of our western culture is key in balancing the powers in that area. If we lose that, those countries are all coming after us.

But no one cares about that. All they have time for is listening to some hacks rewriting history for their own agenda.

Let me ask you something. Is it "America first" for these people to spend all their time talking about Israel? If no one can defend Israel from baseless attacks, without people complaining that they don't care about America, then why is it ok for people to keep attacking Israel? Why doesn't anyone ask Candace or Tucker or any of these people to talk about America? Why the double standard? The only reason anyone has to defend Israel, is because so many others won't stop talking about them and blaming every little thing on them. Something bad happens, it's the Jews' fault. It can never be the people who actually did the bad thing, it's always that the Jews made them do it.
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That’s not true at all verge is a lazy, good ole boy hire. Why get rid of Woodward to hire the right hand guy? Because he’ll do what they tell him. The no search is frustrating. A school like LSU should be talking to people around the country.


You don't get my point. No matter who they would have brought in, people would just say "Landry is controlling him". Could they have hired someone better? I don't know. Were you in on the meetings to know who they called, and who might have said no? Because I know I wasn't there. I'm not any more excited about this than you are, but I'm not going to assume that Verge is a yes man, and I'm also not buying that people were going to trust any other hire, so long as they believe Landry is in control.

I really don't care to engage with any speculative "yes man" talk. The people who hate Landry were going to say that about any AD who was hired. We all know who the coaching candidates are, and it's going to come down to who's interested, and what is LSU willing to pay. No matter who the AD is.

We were hamstrung years ago by an administration that wouldn't pay up. We're all going to find out together if this "new" administration is going to bring us back to those days, or bring us forward.
I obviously am not inside the man's head to know exactly what he's thinking, but I do think that it is hubris that has driven much of his rationale. Everyone crowned him for the 2021 deadline which was, indeed, very lucky in a lot of ways. I give him credit for at least doing something as opposed to nothing that year, but it could have easily been a nothing-burger, that somehow turned to gold for a couple of months.

But anyway, that praise he received seems to have filled him with this sense that he is an outside the box thinker, who won't be held hostage by star players, because he somehow knows the right "fit" every time. Despite numerous failures since that deadline, something like what happened with the acquisition of Chris Sale, where the guy couldn't stay healthy and the Red Sox were just happy to offload only a little bit of his salary for one unproven prospect, made AA feel once again that he is smarter than everyone else. But that was just bad business by the Red Sox. If you are retaining the vast majority of the salary, and not getting a high level prospect in return, why not just keep him and hope he gets and stays healthy? Instead of asking that question, media pundits hailed the "genius" of Alex.

And the way he keeps bringing back players from that 2021 team, who are clearly not performing well, just proves how lucky he was the first time. He thinks he can do the same thing over and over again, and it does not work anymore. It shouldn't have worked the first time, but that was fine, because he was mainly just trying to find fill ins for injuries. But then to break up parts of your core with the same philosophy is, I agree, flirting with malpractice.



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My issue is not necessarily that he traded away Shea Langeliers, Drew Waters and Kyle Muller. The latter two never amounted to much of anything. My issue is that he exhausted the trade bait and downgraded at first base because he got into a pissing contest with Freddie after not negotiating with him prior to the 2021 season.


That's what my point was about trading away too many prospects at once, and not having any depth to call up or trade from. Because yeah, prospects are lottery tickets in most cases, and no one knows what they'll do, but until they prove that they aren't major league talents, you have chips to trade in when you need something.

But AA traded for big names, when we already had guys in house, as you were talking about, which depleted the system, and didn't improve the roster. I've got no issue with making trades that make sense. I didn't think the trades he made in Toronto were wise, and trading for Murphy, and allowing the Freddie situation to get to a point where he backed himself into a trade for Olson, was clearly not wise.

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It's why their farm ranking didn't bottom out like ours did after we graduated and traded all of our prospects away from 2022/23.


This, right here, is why I opposed the hiring of AA as soon as it happened. All I heard about was what a genius he supposedly was, but I watched him torpedo Toronto's farm system to trade for some aging "stars" to bolster a team that went nowhere in the playoffs. I looked at our, at the time, very strong farm system and said to myself "this guy is going to trade this all away". And that's what he did, to a large degree.

It's not that you should never trade prospects. Obviously, there are times to do it. But if you do too much of it, too quickly, you are suddenly banking on everyone on your major league roster panning out and staying healthy, because you have no organizational depth to call up or trade from. Because you went "all in" on a couple of guys in trades.

re: Braves new manager

Posted by Metaloctopus on 11/3/25 at 11:04 pm to
Absolutely incredible...
There is more than one group killing Christians in Nigeria. And the estimates you just gave over the last "20 years" is actually easily the estimate over the last 10 to 15 years.

Does it meet the definition of genocide? Presently, no. And I really don't care. As a Christian, myself, I think that any country that calls itself a Christian nation (understanding that not everyone here is Christian, but it is undoubtedly the dominant worldview throughout the western world) should do what it can to protect fellow Christians, and to protect, in general, people who are violently oppressed. That does not always have to mean war. We can't be in every place at once. That's why Christian organizations send aid to a lot of foreign countries to at least attempt to ease their suffering.

But the rise of atrocities against Christians in Nigeria is rapidly increasing. Viewing the problem over a long range of time ignores the present escalation. I think that's why Trump is threatening action now. And I'm in favor of it.
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Wonder how much their oil reserves factor into this calculus


I wonder when you forgot that America was supposed to be a force for good, and not just a place for us to bubble wrap ourselves from the rest of the world. We strike an enemy in Iran, people complain. We help Israel try to defeat Hamas, people complain. Now our president wants to liberate Christians in Nigeria from slaughter, and you're thinking about oil?

Can we ever do anything outside of this country, without there being some kind of conspiracy? We can either do something about the extremists who are trying rip apart Christians and Jews everywhere, or we can isolate ourselves and wait for the world to close in around us as our enemies take it all over. They hate western culture. They hate everything that resembles it. They won't stop if we just sit back and do nothing.
That's not only a contrast between those two guys, but a contrast between a lot of fans who get mad when any of us critique performance after a win, and people who just call it like it is.

Anyone should be able to know the difference between winning, because you were fortunate you played a bad team, and actually playing well enough to compete with good teams. Saban could say it out loud, but fans just get bashed by other fans for speaking the obvious.
I didn't think there was anyway they would eat that buyout any earlier than maybe after next season, unless we went 0-12, and the boosters couldn't stomach another season with Kelly. Didn't think 5-3 would do it, but I certainly believe it was time for a change, if someone was willing to pay the buyout.

As for Woodward, I didn't really think about it. Wouldn't say I saw it coming, but It's not terribly shocking.
So he claims to love LSU, but now hates LSU, because the AD was fired?
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LSU will NOT be able to find a comparable replacement for Woodward. We just won't. Such accomplishments do not simply grow on trees.


Oh yeah? Was Woodward here for our first six national titles in baseball? Did he hire any of the 4 football coaches who won national titles here? How about all those track championships before he got here? How about the golf national titles? No?

Ah, but he gave Jay Johnson a check, and Kim Mulkey fell into his lap after Baylor turned their back on her, so he's a genius who can't be replaced?
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Again you are a dishonest hack. Christian Zionism is being used to explain how we have some sort of end time bond with the Jews. And he's partly correct. The term Judeo Christian is bullshite. And it is heresy to worship any other god but Christ.


Zionism has one definition. A bond with Jewish people is an entirely separate issue, but also a valid one. It is not a bond with Judaism, the religion, but with the remnant of believers who are there. And for those who don't believe in Jesus, we may not have a "bond" with them, but we are nevertheless commanded to love everyone.

The term Judeo-Christian is not bull. It does not refer to rebellious Jews. The term comes from the fact that Christianity started with the Jewish followers of Jesus, of which there are still many today. It it not a term that combines two religions. That is just a completely fabricated idea.

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Yeah man. Intentionally STARVING innocent women and children is "human shields" you absolute fricking moron.




Starving them? You mean the same Israel that drove food trucks into ENEMY territory, and handed food to people who hate them, was starving them? Let me ask you something... Have you ever given food to your enemy? Have our enemies ever given food to us?

Meanwhile, we know for a fact that Hamas was starving Jews in tunnels, because they posted videos, themselves, bragging about it. Those Jews looked like the Jews from the Holocaust. But when we see footage of "Palestinians", they don't look they've missed any meals. Once again, you have read lies, and reported them as fact.

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All of this is Fox News, Hannity, Mark Levin trope bullshite. How many Israeli soldiers fought in those wars? How many military bases does the US have in Israel? You ideas and beliefs in this are outdated. And full of shite.

Go gargle more Ben Shapiro talking points. Even better. Move to Israel.


We've never exactly needed Israel's help with ground forces, have we? We have, however, a great deal of interests involving the middle east, and Israel has provided intelligence to support our efforts, and the wars they fight with our common enemies, further protects those interests. We don't send troops to their wars. They buy weapons from us.

These are the facts. I don't any of the people you mentioned to tell me this. I know my history.
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Jesus dude you are such a liar.


Tucker just said, in his own words, that "Christian Zionism is a heresy". Which means he either has no idea what Zionism means, or he hates the idea of the Jews' right to exist in Israel. Because that's what Zionism means, for the billionth time that I have now said this.

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You want to be able to bomb and kill innocent women and children so Israel can have some more land.


And here's where you blatantly lie, yourself. The only reason that anyone who is innocent has dies in this war, is because Hamas used them as human shields. I don't wish for war ever to be necessary. But when you are a tiny country being attacked by multiple terrorist organizations who are funded by Islamic regimes all over the middle east, you have to fight back. They have tried peace deals over, and over, and over again. It never works. These Muslims just keep coming back. These same Muslims who chant death to Israel and death to AMERICA, you are asking Israel to back down from.

You know nothing about this conflict, because you know nothing about history. You think all war is the same, and never justified. You watch Candace Owens and are mind numbing conspiracies theories, and you think you are enlightened. But you are blinded beyond belief.

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You're a neocon. A member of the old guard. You won't have any power soon enough. The kids hate you. All of them.



I am no such thing. I haven't supported the war in Afghanistan, I haven't supported the billions of dollars spent on Ukraine. But I support an American ally, who we are not sending troops to fight their war. We send them weapons that Israel PAYS FOR. I know people like yourself like to say we "subsidize them". But it just further illustrates your ignorance. Unlike Ukraine, Israel doesn't ask for handouts.

And if "the kids" hate me, I don't care. if they aren't smart enough to think for themselves, instead of letting conspiracy mongers brainwash them, then I don't want their approval, or yours.
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I already read that dribble. It won't waste another second of my day.


If you read it, then why did you so grossly misrepresent what I said?

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Which ones? What purpose? Be specific and use examples.


When He chose them in the first place, it was to show the world that out of such a small group of people, he could make a mighty nation, not because they were good or special, but because of God's Might. He used them as an example to the world, to bring forth His Word. He used the very Jewish bloodlines of David to bring forth the Savior of the world. And the Bible tells us that in end times, all nations will come against Israel. But they won't be defeated. Why? Because it is still the holy land, and there will be a remnant who will be saved in Israel.

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I did read it. And your 2025 Christian beliefs that Paul introduced way back when don't deserve my time or interest to read again.

You trying to convince us that the New Testament is a sequel is good entertainment. I follow ONE God, friend.

That's Jesus Christ. And it's offensive and blasphemous that another so called "Christian" would try to convince me of any other religion.

Begone demon.


So you think that in 2025, Paul's words are no longer relevant? Even though he spoke these things after Jesus had ascended into heaven, where so many people believe that Israel was forever cast off from God? And you call yourself a Christian?

Why do you keep saying that the New Testament "isn't a sequel to the Old Testament"? Why does it need to be a sequel? I told you Biblical facts. The New Testament did not revoke God's promises to Israel in the Abrahamic covenant. God said it was an EVERLASTING covenant. Do you believe God lies? Why would He say everlasting, and then change His mind? It was the Mosaic covenant, the old law, that the New Testament has replaced. Jesus made the need for sacrifice obsolete, because He is the sacrifice. This is all there is to it, and why you bring up "sequel" is just incoherent.

Finally, when did I ever tell you to follow another religion? I am a Christian telling you what the Bible says. I didn't tell you to convert to Judaism. I am a defender of the Jews' right to exist in Israel, which is what Zionism is.

And Jesus said we would know them (true believers) by their fruits. You say you follow one God. But you don't seem to know what He said, and the fruit you bear in this conversation is that of hostility and ignorance. You might want to look in the mirror, friend.
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What does any of this have to do with Israel's outsized lobbyist control on our nation's warmongers? At least in the case of Carlson, he's made it very clear that's his concern... not some inherent hatred for "jews".


What does that have to do with common Jews? Newsflash, our country lobbies everywhere for it's purposes. That's what governments do: They look out for their own best interests. You don't have to like it. But asked how what I said has anything do do with lobbyists in Israel. This is not what Tucker is saying at all. Sure, he's said it before, but this isn't close to being his only objection. This is the same guy that tried to convince us that Sharia Law wasn't that bad, in order to create sympathy for the enemies of the Jews (and our own enemies).

What did Tucker say that I am addressing? He expressed his disdain for "Christian Zionists". What is a Zionist? Well I already gave you the definition, and you quoted in your reply to me, so I don't need to repeat it. So if Tucker is only talking about the Israeli government, then why is he talking about Zionists? Zionists are not about the protection of a particular government or leader within the Israeli government. So why does he hate that people the Jewish people's right to exist in Israel?

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I'm sorry but if you place anything including Israel above Christ Jesus your faith is empty and I'm not sure you are a Christian.

Jesus said, Follow Me. I am the way.

He did not say follow and support Israel or the Jewish people.

Why would any "Christian" align themselves with someone or people who reject that Jesus Christ is who he said he was. Christ, Savior and God?

Jesus warned that many will come saying Lord, Lord.. and He will say I did not know you.


How do you jump to such wild conclusions that someone who supports Israel's right to exist, is thereby placing them above Jesus? Yes, many Jews have rejected Jesus. Donald Trump isn't a Christian. Have you placed him above Jesus by voting for him? Have I? Thousands of Jews, living in Israel, are Messianic Jews.

how about our nation? It has aborted over 65 million babies, has people running around pretending to be the opposite gender, has drag queens teaching our children, has used a virus to control the population. But you support America, right? You don't just say "screw America" because there are bad people in it, right?